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Written by: David Mika on Sunday, December 16th, 2012. Follow David Mika on Twitter.
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Charter School recruiting is even worse in Basketball, no wonder Charter Schools win State Championships year after year , read this fact:
Eight of the nine top scorers among the top three Public League charter basketball teams this past season transferred in before or shortly after the school year began. Half of the eight came from private schools outside Philadelphia. The other half came from non-charter city public schools.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/20140412_Legislator_questioning_basketball_transfers.html#w83AQ4fyVHfjJiTX.99
David, after a down year for Council Rock South football in 2012, we have some good news to start 2013. 2009 Golden Hawk alum, Justin Pugh, has decided to forego his senior season at Syracuse University to make himself available for this years NFL draft. We are very proud of Justin and wish him the best of luck and will hopefully get to watch him play on Sundays!
I am going to keep this up for one more week. Than we can start the 2013 Football Season. I will have lot’s of fan blogs during the off-season.
Happy New Year!
@ Jay. Yes I own WesternPAFootball.net site. We do have a pick’em panel. http://www.keystonesportstalk.com/pickem/
Thanks for your ideas.
@Jonny. We are starting to name our players and coaches of the year this week. Next Monday and Tuesday we are releasing our all-easternpafootball team.
@ David Mika
Sorry, I don’t mean to hog the message board, but I also thought about maybe providing readers with the option to create a User Profile, and maybe even having ranking systems for users based on their level of overall contribution to the site. I’ve seen this on several other websites and I imagine it could have a positive impact on the site. Anonymity shouldn’t be an issue, as the profiles would be very basic and focus less on personal information and more on general contribution to the site. User profiles could also cross over to WesternPAFootball.net, which may increase interest and traffic to that site, if anything. Using myself as an example, I frequently visit the Western site, but I comment only occasionally since there is very little dialogue that goes on in the forums.
Again, this would be completely optional, but nonetheless something to consider as it is a great way to continue building the EPAFootball.com community.
@David Mika
How about some sort of EPAFootball.com-style “pigskin pick’em” where you or one of your columnists would pick a handful of good matchups each week, give your predictions, and then instead of (or in addition to) simply a forum below, the end-user would actually be able to select their own picks (including an actual score for one game, as a tie-breaker), which could then be recorded week-by-week to see which readers rank among the best when it comes to making picks? The same amount of games would be used each week to give each regular-season week equal weight. In this scenario, there could be a “winner of the week” as well as an “overall season leader” each week.
After the first 2-3 weeks are over, since a large portion of non-league games are played early on, you could start to split the selected matchups up by district to give each district equal weight as well. For instance, let’s say the weekly number of games is seven, since EPAFootball.com represents six districts (1, 2, 3, 4, 11, 12) plus independent teams… you could have some weeks where the seven selected matchups cover all seven districts, including independents. This is a good idea not only because it represents all seven districts, excluding bias, but also because it would separate the “good” prognosticators from the “really good” ones. Of course, the issue of bias in this case is kind of sketchy since some districts are much larger than others and naturally in the larger districts there will be more high-profile matchups to choose from. For that reason, I wouldn’t use the “7 districts, 7 games” format more than two or three times… especially as we get to weeks where, for example, there may be 2 (or more) high-profile matchups in a given district that each determine a league title and/or are huge rivalry games.
This could get especially exciting around the playoffs, which, of course, could either be done as a separate pick’em or as a continuation from the first 10 weeks! You could have both, for instance in a similar fashion to how you have both regular season AND playoffs leaders for Points, PPG, Pts Allowed, & Pts Allowed Per Game on the Home Page. My personal choice would be a continuation. The number of playoff matchups chosen per playoff week should either be four or eight, once again giving equal weight, only this time to PIAA Classification. A point system could be applied to give playoff games a greater weight than regular season games. There are about 100 different ways to make a point system, and pretty much any point system has its pros and cons, so you would need to figure that part out. Or you could do it without a point system.
Overall winner gets an EPAFootball.com tee-shirt and bragging rights for the off-season.
Just a thought. Happy Holidays!
when will you be releasing your all state player listings? interested in seeing your selections
May this Christmas fill your hearts with warmth, peace and joy! Merry Christmas from the EasternPAFootball.com family!
@ David Mika
How about having a window with rolling scores for Friday night and Saturday games similar to what rally does at philly.com. It would be a lot easier than going to the team schedule link for all the teams.
Any chance you guys could do a game of the week live video/audio stream each Friday night similar to what 6abc.com used to do but stopped doing?
Are you guys affiliated with westernpafootball.net? If so, have been wondering for a long time why nobody ever blogs on that site. You would think there would be all kinds of comments considering the renowned western PA high school football tradition, but when I check from time to time there’s nary a post. Ironic in a way.
I don’t know. Have a funny feeling St. Joe’s Prep could be a beast next year. They have a lot coming back and could start peaking. Be fun to see.
What would you like to see new on the site next year?
@jive the point is the penalties called at least 2 of them i seen kids do fifty times this year and not get flagged, and the third still nor sure what they called. I just didnt think that Clairton was being unsportman like,now if their were comments that went with the action that I Don’t know
@Mark, right 3 for unsportsman like conduct. I didn’t say unnecessary roughness. I’m not sure what your point is, but the 3 celebration penalties are equal to no class. They have been there before, act like it! Fans were well behaved, great. Coach pulled a kid for a late hit, great. Players act like classless fools, way to go mom and dad.
@jive 3 of the penaltys that Clairton had were for celebration, the one that was a late hit the Clairton coach pulled the kid from the game and he was done!I have to say Clairton fans were very well behaved and showed a lot of class
Also sad to see the season end, it’s always a great time coming on this site, especially around playoff time when things get really exciting and sometimes heated.
Special thanks to Josh and David, and everyone who contributed to my overall enjoyment of the site this year. See you next season.
Another season come and gone. Man I hate when it’s over. Dave & Josh, thanks again for all you do to promote PA High School football and the young men that play the game.
Wow, what a show put on tonight by North Allegheny. Turnovers killed Coatesville early, and it was all NA from there.
Kudos to Coatesville for a remarkable run, but many congratulations to NA on winning their 2nd title in 3 years!
@ Jay I have seen how poorly the WPIAL refs treat an eastern team playing up, even in a pre-season game, so I would not recommend going out of State, you may be playing a semi-pro team or hateful hosts. Additionally, if a team loses to a smaller school, they are penalized in rankings, so getting the games can be challenging.
@ Matt, well if you want to earn your way out of a less challenging section, move your AA team to AAA, because the league won’t let you move any other way & then get the section with all AAAA teams. Made for an interesting season and the wins and loses were hard fought. No excuses, just hard work day in day out. It’s what the coaches wanted and they got it.
Congrats to Wyomissing, always tough team to get through at AA District 3 and now a State Championship!
To Eastern PA Football, Thanks for all your work, it made for an informed season. God Bless the players and coaches, have a safe holiday season.
@Matt, great point about Clairton. While their win streak is impressive, they don’t exactly play a particularly rough schedule.
Maybe they could have one or two games at the beginning of the season against out-of-state or higher class tougher opponents before getting into their normal routine of Fort Cherry & Serra Catholic beatdowns… sort of like West Catholic (AA) who plays both Wood (AAA) and LaSalle (AAAA) or North Penn or LaSalle who took on Don Bosco Prep or Bergen Catholic in years past. Or how about kicking off each season with an Aliquippa-Clairton showdown? Other than “it would jeopardize the streak”, what is one good reason for them NOT to do something like this?
With all due respect to Dunmore (after all, they did make it to Hershey), even that game didn’t say very much. That may have been the most one-dimensional offense ever to make it to a state final… well, at least that I’ve seen. How many passing plays did they call? 2 or 3?! Didn’t take Clairton long to realize this and stop them the entire game.
This winning streak is nowhere near as impressive as CB West’s run in the 90’s.
well said JiveTurkey9, I said the same thing
not Imhotep hater, dont like non neighborhood teams.Plus I wan to hear about grades first then atletics second.
Only one more day of football and then what to do? I’m gonna slide right into basketball. For all of the Imhotep haters. Brandon Austin is a 6’7″ gaurd heading to Providence. He is a heck of a player and a treat to watch. Imhotep basketball plays a real tough schedule, and may not lose a game. They have 3 other players to watch for. Jr. Basil Thompson {transfer from MC&S} is a top Jr. in the city. Sr’s. Deryl Bagwell {transfer from Northeast} and Abraham Massaley {transfer from MC&S} could both go D1. These coaches must be the luckiest men on earth. Every time a stud player wants to transfer to Tep, they always seem to get picked from the enrollment lottery.
Did Clairton really have 4 or 5 personal fouls for unsportsman like conduct, in the last couple minutes of the game? Way to spoil a great run boys. Hell of a way to win with class!
Prediction time…
AAAA – North Allegheny 28, Coatesville 14
NA’s brutal, brawny, ball-controlling lines will win out against an athletic opponent. C’ville is peaking at the right time, but they haven’t played a team like NA – or faced a QB like Mack Leftwich. Make it 2 championships in 3 years for the Tigers.
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AAA – Cathedral Prep 41, Archbishop Wood 27
I like ECP’s recruits against AB’s recruits. Prep’s main test came against West Allegheny – it’ll be smooth sailing from here on in.
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AA – Wyomissing 21, Aliquippa 13
For all of Aliquippa’s storied tradition, the PIAA final hasn’t been particularly kind to the Quips. They typically have trouble with those tough, disciplined teams out east. And for the first time this year, the Quips are in a game where the best player – Alex Anzalone – is on the opposite sideline. Everybody wonders if Wyomissing can defeat the mighty Quips. Well, they already did – see last week’s throttling of Aliquippa mirror-image Imhotep Charter. Most people will call this an upset, but Wyomissing is simply the better team.
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A – Clairton 22, Dunmore 20
This will be closer than most people think. Dunmore’s size will give Clairton fits, but it’s the Bears’ big-play ability – a constant theme in their 4-year reign – that will once again carry the day. Ask Riverside or Southern Columbia if Clairton can turn the tide in a hurry. The winning streak goes to 63. Memo to the press: whatever happens, can we please stop those “Gritty, Inspiring Football Team Is The One Last Hope For A Crumbling, Once-Bustling Western PA Steel Town” stories? It’s beyond tripe, guys. We get it – Clairton’s a crummy, crime-ridden place with a helluva high school football team. Message received.
One more thing…Clairton’s streak is noteworthy, no doubt. It’s the longest current winning streak in the country. But while 62 consecutive wins is impressive at any level, the Bears’ streak doesn’t compare to Concord (CA) De La Salle. The Spartans once reeled off 151 wins in a row, at times playing against the best teams in America. Clairton, you’ve played many of these 62 games against…Avella, Chartiers-Houston and Frazier.
And it must be noted – Aliquippa could play A-ball, but they choose to play up. So does Jeannette. How come you guys didn’t? I guess pasting Serra Catholic 63-7 every year never gets old, huh?
General
The credentials for the West this year are unbelievable. All four come in undefeated. The A, AA, & AAA representatives are the top three scoring machines in the state. The four west teams bring 6 division one college prospects, and colleges such as Michigan and Michigan State. All four west teams bring the top defense in the state in their class for teams still playing. Statistics do not measure heart and effort in a one-day game, but a sweep for the west certainly seems possible. The word “upset” may still have meaning in high school football, however.
You can chat on here for each game this weekend.
Here are my pics. This year the west has a shot at a sweep. I think the AA game is our best shot. I will be rooting for all the EAST teams!
NA over C’ville
ECP over Wood
Aliq. over WYom.
Clairton over Dunmore
@Buddy
You probably knew, or certainly had a good idea, of the answer to the first of your queries of December 11th. The North Penn Knights have appeared in 37 playoff games, going 29-8 for a .784 winning average. Neshaminy was in 25, going 17-8 for .680. Ridley has appeared in 22, going 13-9 for .591. I cannot imagine anyone else in D1 4A with more appearances than these three teams. Total wins in the period I have not tackled as yet.
predictions please!!!!!!!!
WOW Just seen alot of the posting. To see that there is still no respect for Coatesville is kinda crazy. No one mentioned the fact in the Lasalle game, The players that got hurt were in a battle and if you have never been in a fight or seen one. Getting injured is a part of a game, The only way you can get hurt is if you are engaged. Basically everybody was properly equipped “The Refs Checked that”lol and should have been well prepared. So it comes down to being prepared physically Lassalle has never been a game like that this year. You guys act like the players got injured by tripping over the Refs, cramping, or some unexplained occurrence. They got hit hard, blocked hard, Or pulled a muscle trying to catch that speed. lol
And Also I did see posting talking about the worse officiating in America. They called back 3TD. So if they didn’t call that, the score would’ve been 63 to whatever. But if ,, “IF” was a 5th we all would be drunk.
NA 41, C’ville 23
ECP 35, WOOD 33
Aliq., 38, Wyom., 24
Clairton 37, Dunsmore 20
GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!
@Buddy
Thank you for the compliment of which I am likely unworthy. My written records are primarily for Bucks County schools and those that have ducked in and out of various Suburban One divisions since 1985. My long analysis on the championships since 1988 are on just the winner-loser in each class. I would have to research all the playoffs in the last 10 years to answer your question; which I am certainly willing to do; but I would imagine that Josh, based on his concise pre-2012 championship writeups with the statistics he included, would be able to more quickly answer your most interesting question.
Hate to say this, but I think the only winner from the East might be Wyomissing, and that’s a big maybe.
I think Prep will beat Wood, outside chance I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Not sure how Wood has been winning, all they got is a running game.
But I guess that’s why they actually play the games.
At the beginning of this thread, you said Imhotep is not good because they don’t play anybody. Now you say they’re good because they’re a ‘private/charter’ school. Well, if charter/private schools are so much better then public schools and have an unfair advantage, how is it that Imhotep didn’t play anybody when 10 of their 14 wins were against the same charter/private schools whom you say have an unfair advantage and need their own ‘5A’ classification? Ironically, a public school beat Imhotep in the state finals and over half of the teams representing the 4 championship games this weekend are all public.
Best of luck to the area teams representing the East this weekend in Hershey. The West squads are all tough but I’m looking forward to seeing some great games.
Picks:
Clairton
Wyomissing
Erie Cathedral Prep
Coatesville
@ Rollie Ciffo Bravo Bravo well said
Best of luck to the Dunmore Bucks on your quest to become STATE CHAMPS. Remember you are not just representing Dunmore but now you represent all of the east.Your program is one that brings great pride to our area and know this..all of Riverside will be supporting you and finish for us the job that we almost completed in 2010.. end the streak and bring back home the STATE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
@ Josh Funk and/or Kmac:
Football guru’s that you are, question ( actually two):
Who has the most playoff wins in D1 in, let’s say, the last 10 years.
Also, who has the most wins overall ( all games played) in the same time period.
@Josh
Thanks, Josh; I completely missed that. I missed the guide last year but usually buy it faithfully and have this years. Keep up the fine work on the love of a lot of folks apparently; High School football.
Kmac,
PA Football News updates the list of 500-game winning programs in state history annually in their Resource Guide. That list is based on the compilations of Dr. Saylor and then updated accordingly. If you purchase PFN’s RG each year, you can have a very good idea where teams rank in terms of all-time victories. I’ve used that list on numerous occasions. Once the PIAA finals are over, I’ll provide folks an address for which to order their 2013 edition of the RG, if you desire to do so. If you are a high school football fan, it’s $25 (give or take) well-spent.
@harryaston
There are a lot of teams that North Penn couldn’t keep up with this year, c’ville is certainly one of them.
However, in the past 10 years, c’ville would want no part of North penn, that’s for sure.
If the green raiders you mean Ridley, their biggest hurrah against North Penn was several years ago when they upset them in the D1 final.Other then that, they haven’t wanted any part of North Penn either ( except this year)
This was the least talented NP team in 14 years. Also, the first time they missed the playoffs in that same time span.
Unfortunately for us NP fans, doesn’t look very promising for next year either.But I sure as hell hope I’m wrong!
Lesson here: never question the funksters stat producing ability!
@Tsaf
Here something to think about between John & Jack Henzes the family has 622 wins !
@tsaf77
No question on the tradition and certainly powerful small school programs at Dunmore and Old Forge. I wonder though about them being the only two single borough/townships left in the state? I know of three such teams in D1, but certainly not the power programs of the two you mentioned. I would think there were still many small town/borough schools left; admittedly the trend is to “area” schools and consolidations due to various cost/enrollment factors.
@Josh
Now that the subject has come up; is there anyone working on bringing the Roger Saylor 500-win list current? Its, I assume, through the 2009 season. And, given so many seasons have passed (126 in some cases); maybe it should be a 600-win list(?). The top team is over 800 wins, and 126 seasons would allow roughly 5 wins a season now to get to 500. Some teams on it started in 1887, of course they did not play many games a season for many years. Just a thought.
Jeff, its a silly issue and here’s why. As catholic school after catholic school fell by the wayside in the playoffs, and the public schools began to assert themselves, people being whiners needed a new bane to rail against. That new bane was identified as evil charter school Imhotep. A more ridiculous statement has never been uttered.
Imhotep’s a public charter school in the Philly Public League. Taxpayer dollars cover that school. Not scholarships, tuition or boosters. The only reason Imhotep exists is because public school in Philly stinks. So here’s their choice. Stay in a school run by crack dealers or go to the school of their choice and get an education. I know you would want them to stay in their crack-addled school just so your kids “who’ve been together since middle school” can vie for a state title.
And that’s why the argument is dumb. When kids arses get beat, parents have to find a way to rationalize the loss. Its a private school, its a catholic school, its a charter school, they recruit, blah blah blah blah blah. They could make a class 5A for private schools, a kids team will be beaten in one of they other classes, and sure as crap, you can bet some whiny parents will come up with a new “injustice”.
The grass is always greener and some people will always complain about something.
Phillyboy,
Ridley has the highest winning percentage of any team in Pennsylvania (641-162-26, .798).
Mount Carmel has the most victories, with 813. Easton is No. 2 with 779 and Berwick is 3rd with 757.
in addition to tsaf about dunmore they packed there bleachers and even filled 25%of bellwood antis side despite having a 125 mile ride,cold steady rain, and the game on tv they have an incredible following they like to say one team ,one town. congratulations to the bucks. look for large turnout again this week in hershey.
@ Josh Funk
Speaking of all-time victories, is it true that Ridley has the most wins all-time in PA? Thought I heard that somewhere before. Is that true? If so, who is in second and third place? And what are the totals?
Okay Josh, I was guessing at combining the 2 teams (a little tongue-in-cheek). Anyway, you get my main point (over 100 more than LaSalle and close to 100 more than North Penn). Thanks for the stats — I didn’t know C’ville had quite that many — hope they add one more this weekend
I grew up in Western PA (D7) and have lived in D11 the last 10 years. Always a HS football fan. What’s impressive is the 1,000+ posts on this thread from eastern PA fans – the westernpafootball.com sister site is a ghost town in comparison. I’m from the rival district to NA so I’ll be rooting for Cville – Art Walker’s bunch will be their biggest test of the year… Clairton and Erie CP are stacked. Wyomissing should give Aliquippa a game and then some. Congrats to Cville and Wyomissing for their first appearances on the Hershey stage – always fun to see the excitement generated by the schools and their fans making that first trip.
Cville,
Coatesville enters Saturday’s game with 644 all-time victories. But you are wrong about combining LaSalle & North Penn’s win totals to equal Coatesville’s.
With each NP & LSCHS’ 2012 seasons complete, North Penn has 566 all-time victories and LaSalle has 529. Put together, that’s 1,085 victories, or 1.7 times Coatesville’s all-time win total.
For all the talking on here about Coatseville not having tradition and not seeing the state title. Wow, sour grapes. The kids won the game on the field and the Arm Chair QB’s on here are justifying the reasons they should have lost. It’s HS football guys. Lets please remember that.
When you Philly guys talk tradition how about a team outside Scranton in Dunmore.
Legendary HS football coach Henzes with almost 400 wins. He had players such as Tim Ruddy (C Miami Dolphins) come though this little school. Coaches such as the Marciano brothers (Texans and Colts) and one you all have probably heard of recently Victor Fangio (SF 49ers DC) have all played and coached for Mr. Henzes. Please keep in mind that Dunore is only one of two schools that are single borough/township schools left in the state (the other being Old Forge). The school is tiny but competitive every year and the teams are the most disciplined gentlemen I have seen in HS football. Coach Henzes emulated his father John Henzes who was an almost 300 wins for Blakely HS now Valley View. I admire Henzes and Dunmore.
rollie, it is an issue for the kids who lost somewhere beween week 11 and week 16. DOnt be so shallow and dumb with your lack of regard for the neighborhood kids who had maybe one and if lucky two chasnces to get to the big dance.
North Penn does not want any part of the Red Raiders- could not keep up- North Penn does not want any part of the Green Raiders either……..
Hey D1 Monster, I got your point about Coatesville fans maybe backing off a bit, but historically speaking Coatesville has over 600 wins (I know that is way more than LaSalle or North Penn — maybe even if you combine the 2). Year after year Coatesville puts out good/scary teams. By the way, they were pretty darn good last year (yes, I know Pennsbury took them out). Plus we could get into the whole private school open enrollment thing (but I’ll just leave it at that). Also, for the rest of you, I’ve been watching some North Allegheny clips — they look a lot like LaSalle, plus they were really lucky to beat North Hills. I think Coatesville will be able to score against them, but not sure Coatesville can stop them. I predict C’ville 42-35 again.
Public schools are guaranteed to win 3 of the 4 state titles. I bet 50% of the 1,000 responses to this thread are whiners about perceived unfair competition. PLEASE STOP. ITS A NON-ISSUE…AGAIN.
Of the four eastern teams would say Wyomissing has the best chance of a W. Erie Cathedral Prep played a very legit schedule. Think NA is the best team in the state but Erie is not too far behind.
Anyone who cannot see the imbalance of private schools playing public schools needs to step back. Take the emotion out of it, a kid on a public school team should not have to lose a once in a lifetime shot to play deep into the state hunt to a team who picks kids from the surrounding areas. It’s that simple.BTW, it does not matter what sport it is.
D1Monster-
We actually agree. I am not a ‘Ville fan, but respect what they have done THIS year and was upset with the lack of respect shown to D1. The tenor on both sides needs to calm down. I won’t contibute to that anymore. Peace out!!
PubSchoolFan,
I am not a LaSalle fan, actually North Penn is my team. I agree with you that Coatseville should enjoy the moment. It is a great accomplishment for the kids and will be a great experience. But enjoying the moment and being proud of your team is one thing. Acting like Coatesville is the greatest program in the world is laughable. More than likely you will not sniff Hershey again in the next 10 years. So I guess, yeah, you should enjoy the moment, since you wont be here for another decade at best. You and some other posters are making it extremely difficult for anyone in D1 to want to cheer for them. Who cares how Lasalle fans acted befroe the game. Be a better person and win with character.
PubSchoolFan,
I am not a LaSalle fan, actually North Penn is my team. I agree with you that Coatseville should enjoy the moment. It is a great accomplishment for the kids and will be a great experience. But enjoying the moment and being proud of your team is one thing. Acting like Coatesville is the greatest program in the world is laughable. More than likely you will not sniff Hershey again in the next 10 years. So I guess, yeah, you should enjoy the moment, since you wont be here for another decade at best. You and some other posters are making it extremely difficult for anyone to want to cheer for them.
@wolfman I had no horse in this race because I am not from the coatsville/lasalle areas but you are making yourself sound like a guy who is using excuses to justify the loss. Stop being a sore loser. Lasalle lost. EVERY team has injuries and great teams, championship teams, find a way to win. Look back at CB West’s last state title. Dustin Picciotti, one of the best blue chip recruits in the nation that year, got hurt early on in that game and did not return. CB West found a way to win the game and the state title. No Excuses bro…you lost. Just eat it.
Colin – I agree it def. goes in cycles. Wood is real good and coached well. Carey will be ready for Cathedral Erie Prep… they stopped “The streak” when he was at CB West… Cathedral prep’s QB is the real deal and will be a good one to watch.
Soup, You are right on the money unfortunately. The west is stacked. It always runs in cycles tho. Like last year in AAA and AAAA there wasnt even a western rep(just because D3 plays D7 in the semi doesnt make them a western to me). This year each eastern team in the final will be playing the best team they have played all year with the possible exception of wood playing LaSalle And SJP. This isnt the case for the western teams. Of all 4 games ill give Wood the best chance to win from the East.
@wolfman, you know I was rooting for LaSalle and thought they would win. No reason to yak at the C’ville fans about showing class, when you, in your post, show none. If this guy didn’t get hurt, that guy didn’t get hurt. If the ball bounced this way or that. If my aunt had balls yada yada yada. If Anzalone didn’t look like a flashback of Henry Hynoski out there maybe Imhotep wins. If Imhotep didn’t play a JV schedule all year, maybe they wouldn’t even have been there. We can if, if, if all day but the scoreboard isn’t gonna change. Accept it and move on. GOOD LUCK this weekend Coatesville.
Hey wolfie you need to chill. I haven’t read anything on here out of line from Coatesville fans. Anybody who watched that game saw Coatesville dominate the game despite the worst officiating in PIAA history. They physically beat LS and only the Refs kept it close.
@raider fan
LaSalle lost its best player in the secondary, who also happens to be their best offensive play maker as well – Coleman. They lost their best def lineman – Spiteri, who also is a stud offensive lineman. They lost a starting middle backer – Eife, who is also an effective offensive player. I was at the game, and I saw La Salle march right down the field early when they had all of their pieces. They were missing in effect six starters with these losses, then the QB Kane late. LaSalle is not deep because of their size, and it would only make sense that Coatesville would have some offensive success because of the depleted lineup.
It is easy to see that this type of success is totally new to you because of your tone, you talk like the most prolific football program in the state has never seen a team like Coatesville before, LaSalle has seen far better then that over the last five yrs and has had much success.
To you and all the other Coatesville posters out there……show some class and act like you have been there before, even know you haven’t.
D1Monster-
Move on, my brother.. If you have to bring up the past, then you are not part of the present.. Everyone realizes who was good in the last few years.. Let the C’Ville fans have their moment! LS has recently had their moment. Your team wasn’t good enough this year!! Coatesville fans deserve their moment, especially with the LS fans talking smack over the last few weeks. I appreciate the C’Ville contingent and what they have accomplished to date. Get a life, bro. Relevancy is periodic.. Right now, LaSalle is not relevant in the conversation.. They lost homie..
@Mika, State-wide or just Eastern PA?
to Harry Aston,not from coatesville, but rooting for them because they are nighborhood kids. That’s how it is supposed to be.
Coatesville Fans,
Relish the great win over LaSalle. The kids are having a great season and have a shot to represent the East and bring home Gold. But some of you are diminishing this team by your crazy comments. They are a very good team for sure, and I know there is excitement over the fact that they finally made it to this point this year, but lets be honest-Ville wasn’t even mentioned in the same breadth as North Penn or LaSalle in the last 4-5 years. When was the last time Coatesville was even relevant in a playoff conversation? My point is, enjoy the moment and cheer them on to victory, but stop with the hatred towards LS and NA and others. Rememeber, you still havent won it yet.
We are going to pick player’s and coaches of the year soon. Who are your picks?
A and AA offensive and defensive players and coaches.
AAA and AAAA offensive and defensive players and coaches.
NA exploits team’s that are fast & not disciplined.I mentioned this in an earlier post;I believe that the east is in a down year and the west is stacked, NA has beat several teams that I think could beat C’Ville…. NA wins an easy one.
Buddy,
Im afraid you are right. The west looks best this year. Its gonna be very difficult for the east to win any of these games. I am an eastern guy all the way but i just cant see any of these games going the easts way. I hope im wrong………..The good thing is it is only one game and certainly anything can happen but each eastern team is a sizable underdog. Just the way i see it
I love the Red Raiders- Cville fans are awesome! Great to see a NEIGHBORHOOD school represent Easten PA- Kids from Delaware,New Jersey Maryland and California should never play for a Pennsylvania State Title! Did not think your D was tough enough- came up big when necessary- need to reduce penalties…….
How does LaSalle get away with playing one less playoff game then anyone else in the playoffs?
Wolfman, you must not have attended the game. becouse if you did you clearly would know the best team did win. Lasalle’s great defense couldn’t stop Cville all night. Cville’s coaching staff went conservative in play calling when Cville was up 42-21 with ten minutes to play. never should have been close. over 500 yds. of offense.you kidding me.
Re: last post
Sorry, should be an “a” not “an” before reply; I originally had “answer” to Josh, but “reply” was more correct; I changed to “reply” but forgot the a – an. I am just a stickler about it. I do a lot of writing.
@Buddy
Regarding your post on a possible west sweep; you may recall I posted I feared that possibility a while ago in an reply to Josh on one of these strings. The west brings four undefeated teams to the table, and you cannot feel Clariton in 1A is not a favorite. I heard the North Allegheny game yesterday; YIKES! We need great efforts from our eastern reps. Interestingly, Wood’s line coach Mike Carey was handed his only defeat by Cathedral Prep in his one-year CB West tenure; but he also beat them twice when he was asst. coach at West under Pettine. The 2A game looks like a possible rematch for Wyomissing; the Quips being very Imhotep-like, at least in stats.
Saw the Imhotep game yesterday. Can see how they score a lot of big plays because of speed. When teams get this deep into the playoffs weaknesses can be exposed that normally aren’t. Vaguely heard of Anzelone. The kid’s a stud. Reminds me a little of Dan Connor. Has power, speed and balance. They just might win the whole thing.
@ Wolfman, you have to win with what you have. But I do agree missing Key players didn’t help. Great Season Eastern Pa fans!
Well, s/o to Wyomissing!! They came to Philly and beat a good Imhotep team! There running game was more effective and passing set up the run. I think Imhotep looked past this team and into the state finals. They’ll be back strong and hungry next year!
P.S.
To the Penn Argyl fan, we are not upset, we had a great season! Destroyed your team and many others. We still hold our heads high!
Yes officiating and injuries are part of the game but you can’t cry and moan about what you can’t control. What you can control somewhat is your play on the field, coaching adjustments and play calling and on all three accounts LaSalle did too little too late and ran out of time. The dropped passes at crucial times was the game in my opinion. If they make the catches LaSalle pulls it out!
Coatsville was a touchdown better last night. LaSalle was unprepared for the athleticism and speed of Coatsville early and that is hard to prepare for except through the course of a game. By the time they figured out how to defense Coatsville they were too far behind. If La Salle didn’t drop all those passes well inside the red zone I think they would have pulled it out. Again Coatsville was a touchdown better on this given night. If they played multple times I feel La Salle would beat them most of the time but it is a one and done proposition so cudos to Coatsville. Hopefully they will represent the east well in Hershey and not get embarrassed. I do have the feeling they can’t beat NA though but I can hope…
@ Warrior Poet
No doubt, ACC got handled again. Wood was gracious to not run the score up. It isnt surprising for a 5 loss team though. It is pretty amazing they were even there. I think it speaks volumes to how weak the East is in general at the AAA level. District 2 and 4 teams got pounded by ACC. How would they have fared? Scary to think about.
If Wood keeps reloading, they should be there every year for a long time to come. Things are cyclical though.
Keep in mind, it was only two years ago that Wood gave up 700 yards to ACC in the semi game and looked average at best. Couple that with the beat down in 08′ in the AAA title game and people were thinking the same thing about Wood and District 12.
@ buddy I never said best team in PA that wasnt me but like i said I never saw or herd of this team size they truly dominated the line both sides of ball think Tep under estimated them and this #24 kid for Wyomissing WOW impressive is all I can say too much of a man for high school kids
@ Dan Gleesac, your a funny guy… All the crap you blabbed about with Imhotep and how they eat nails, have speed of Sanders, and power of Alstott, you should write comic books. And @ CT Coach, word of advise, a coach should never be on a talk forum, if your a true coach. Peace. I went to the game today and I will tell you, that if a team is going to beat Alliquipa, it’s Wyomissing, that team is so disciplined. I will say that Imhotep kids were very classy as were the parents. Nice to see. A lot of studs on that team too.
It was hard to root for Imhotep, glad to see Wyomissing win though
where is all the cville love. All the doubters have going into hiding. if cville lost would posted Lasalle was better team. got to admit that team is FAST. SPEED KILLS.
Congratulations to all the teams that were able to make it to this week in the playoffs. Good luck to Coatesville, Wood, Wyomissing and Dunmore being the Eastern representatives in the State Championships next weekend.
Some shocking results with Coatesville being able to pull what would appear to be an upset over La Salle.
The biggest shock would have to be Wyomissing, noone even mentioned them on this website and they were the better team all along in AA.
Where are all the Imhotep posters now saying that they where the best team in the state from a to aaaa, like I said before this is highschool football, they are still kids and anything can happen in any giving weekend
About Imhotep being the best team in the state at any level ( Dan Gleesac & CT coach)…… does that mantle now go to Wyomissing?
Wow! Apparently Wood’s bus did not get lost finding Banko Stadium. Although it appears the bus ran over the entire ACC defense. I figured Wood would wear them down but not to this extent. It’s hard to tell from the stats because I hear Wood pulled most starters in 2nd half, but I hear they could have scored 70 again if Devlin kept his starters in. This Wood team is young but they seem to be peaking at the right time. Can someone who was at the game give a quick breakdown? They got their fumbleitis out of the way against NP and Prep .Did Wood throw much? I assume they just pounded ACC on the ground with their huge line.
Coatesville, Congrats! Man what a game in all aspects. I am happy they will be representing the District for the east. Well coached, athletic, and hard nosed. Bring it home Ville! NA will be a beast but I think Ville will pull it out.
Any Wilson update???
How about Wyomissing? Guess they weren’t the 4 TD underdog that Imhotep thought they were. Next weeks games should be really entertaining- Wyomissing and Coatesville against D7. NA WILL be a handful, they totally dismantled one heck of a defense today.
well got the score close just had wrong school winning o_0 Did not see that coming WOW Wyomissing O line and D line was bigger than Imhoteps didn’t think that was possible. and knew nothing about # 24 from Wyomissing he is a man child 6’3″ 230lbs. RB/LB with a boyish face (look like he was 14) on his way to play LB at Notre Dame. Wyomissing 35 to Imhotep 13 well played game just think Teps DB’s got exposed Tep is young they will be back!
Came on here to see if there was any good bickering going on… How ’bout them refs last night?! Totally unbiased! No missed calls! Great job all-around! Hahaha.
Wanted something to laugh at so I guess I’ll just read @Dan Gleesac’s Imhotep post again… looks like the nails and gasoline for breakfast caught up with them. I knew they were jinxed as soon as he said King Dunlap.
There’s going to be some unhappy Imhotep fans in Philly, and on this message board tonight.
Signed,
A happy Pen Argyl Green Knight fan.
EPAF.NET
Where’s your web site moderator. Do he/she sleep in on Saturdays? Let get this ball rolling.
sixers: its good to see a change in the final from one side of the bracket, keeps fresh fans traveling to hershey. 42-35 is not dominating a game, but it is winning, which is what matters when time expires. Get ready for Hershey, its time to leave it all on the field, which I’m sure Coatesville will. Good Luck, because “Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.”
3 for 3 woww almost exact scores in cville -La game i had 41-19 score was 42-35 Wood game i had 28-22 score was 36-6 i had Dunmore 35-14 score was 40-19 just waiting on Imhotep game now Tep 45-13 wish I had a horse in this race
@ tles
that’s “zip code”. Ah those public schools!
Yes LaSalle lost it best player – Coleman (one of the best players in the state), its 2nd best two way lineman – Spiteri, and its team captain and two way player Eife. Three of its best five players gone and Coatesville barely squeaks it out. At full strength it was obvious who the better team was.
Best of luck to Coatesville in Hershey.
@ John
I’d like to congratulate the opponent; you played a whale of a game. That one’s on me. I need to put myself in a position to make plays. I gotta do a better job. I’m gonna evaluate the game to see what needs to be done to get this thing turned around. Time’s yours.
I’m afraid there is a distinct possibility of a western sweep……… unfortunately
Can someone explain how Allentown Central Catholic could be mercy rule dominated by Arch Wood for two years in a row? After all this is the state semi-finals. Has Dist 11 football dropped off the face of the earth? How is this possible?
Yes LaSalle lost its best player – Coleman (one of the best players in the state), its 2nd best two way lineman – Spiteri, and its team captain and two way player Eife. Three of its best five players and Coatesville barely squeaked it out. At full strength, it was obvious who the better team was.
Best of lluck to Coatesville in Hershey.
wheres jimbo
coatesville kids live in the same zip coad
Shout Out to everyone who thought Coatesville couldn’t win… THEY DOMINATED La who..?
LaSalle lost 42-35 How?
LaSalle kids have long trips back to New Jersey, Delaware and Maryland- Yea Red Raiders!
Coatesville 42 Recruiting central 35
Heck of a game tonight in Downingtown! Coatesville once again showed that they an put up points against anybody. Next week assuming they play NA will be even tougher.
The playcalling in the 3rd quarter was a thing of beauty by coach Ortega and his Coatesville staff. Had the ball for all but 2 minutes or so in the quarter. At the same time, he almost cost them the game up 42-21 by going extremely vanilla with the playcalling, and letting LaSalle right back into the game. Major props to LaSalle down 42-21 they never quit and made it exciting the last 8 minutes of the game. Hard fought, physical game from both sides, but easily one of the worst officiating games i’ve seen in a while.
That was a very entertaining game. If Coatesville can cut down on the penalties, they will be champs. Their number 9 was an MVP tonight. Scoring over 40 points on LS defense. WOW!
Fell bad for Coleman and Spitieri. That’s not the right way to end their seasons.
Good luck in Chocalate Town. Merry Christmas
Coatesville: 42
LaSalle : 35
nice
@phillyboy/Jimmy/@ Paul from Philly/warriorpoet/PCL fan-
If you had a sense of humility… I would not even post this… LaSalle had a great year! They have a great Academic school, great kids, and a great football team. I don’t care if others think LaSalle “recruits”.. You guys talk too much smack!! That is the issue that “WE” in the Pub School arena can’t tolerate… If you were humble, we would not care in the least.. But, you’re not.. that is the issue.. it has nothing to do with “recruiting”.
Good Luck in 2013!!!
Jimbo/PCL fan-
Does LaSalle play defense??? Have they discovered Defense yet??
Giving up 28 pts in the first half.. 35 by early in the 3rd Quarter…
Really??? Yo have no clue bro’s… However, there is still alot of football left to play.. I wish you well..
Its not 36 – 0 Archbishop Wood at halftime…..is it?
@ Phillyboy, Prep beat St Peters 40 to 28 in 2009,
Missanelli just released his “lines” for the AAAA and AAA Eastern Finals…. LaSalle -7.5 & Wood -22
@ Dan Gleesac you just made my day with that absurdly ridiculous and hilarious post. Mika you need to give this guy a column, for pure entertainment value.
Rick it may take 15 yrs to get back but without open enrollment thats usually what happens. you play with what walks through the door. our team is comprised of kids that live in the coatesville area. not everybody can say that. by the way you have any examples of Cville fans not acting with class? I go to all of football,basketball,baseball games dont no what your talking about.
@ Phillyboy
The Prep Beat them in 2009
http://tedsilary.com/SJPrepFB09.htm
@ easternpafootball.com
Thanks for updating the live streaming link for the state semifinals. That’s what’s up.
@John, Prep beat St. Peters in 2009 40-28. Desmon Peoples had 7 carries for 162yds. Peoples was 0-1 passing and had 2 catches for 6yds. He had 2 TD’s, not 3. Garrett Compton and Skyler Morningweg also scored 2 TD’s each.
Imhotep is real good but do not sleep on Aliquippa. They are 14-0 too and have as much or more speed… looking forward to seeing that game if everything plays out right… ‘Quips are putting up 51 per game and only allowing less than 5.
@CLARK31C the only team talking trash will be Coatesville…not exactly known for their class. Lets all be thankful they are only good once every 15 years.
@trugrit thats the scary thing about Imhotep there young #20 only a 10th grader has the biggest up side(size and speed)one of the best RB on team right now! #25 is ultra quick and #5 can run the spread option better with those 3 guys in the back field at the same time who do you key on scary! not to mention O line scary!!!! they have a chance to be better next year if that’s possible. and yeah we played them tuff but record books say Comm Tech 0 wins Imhotep 10 wins its turned into a lopsided rivalry (if you will) even in basketball Comm Tech and Imhotep Battle !hope both schools are still around in 5 ,10 years to compete.
@ John
I think you’re mistaken, my man. SJP never beat St. Peter’s Prep in 2008 or 2009. They just got rolled the one time they played a few years ago.
@SIXERS
Here is the box score for the Unionville playoff game. It shows a close game in the forth. So add the 21 points from that game and you have 70.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/scores/?mode=match_detail&schema=fb_2012&state=1001&fname=match_id&fvalue=5051
Dunmore gets pressure up the middle and backside defense stays home. They win his game comfortably.
@CLARK31C, I for one, can’t wait until you’re back in your hole!
@Deo, you’re welcome guy!
@CT Coach
Brother I feel the same way! BTW, your team did give Imhotep their toughest game. This team is still gonna be loaded for next year. The O-Line is all Jr’s, QB is a Soph, 3rd string RB is a Soph. The Defense is graduating 3-4 Seniors. This team is to be reckoned with for the next couple years.
Just think there is only one day left until these battle begins. I really hope everybody on this site who just keep on talking trash about both teams show up tomarrow night and support COATESVILLE or LASALLE . Lets keep real here its hard to get to this point in the season and there will be disapointments , bad calls by refs , and trash talking on the field, but guess what [ ONLY 1 TEAM CAN WIN ] so lets play the game and move on to HERSHEY or your locker room . Good luck , play hard to eastern final championship 2012.
Imhotep game could be played on the moon it will not matter imhotep by 30
@phillyboy, Prep beat St Peters 2008, 2009 season. Desmond People’s scored three touchdowns that game. That was Brooks last year at the prep. The following year they played and the Prep got crushed. Remember once Brooks left prep lost majority of there players.
@ PCL Fan 21 + 28 = 49… I don’t where you’re getting 70 from… They were never behind Unionville at any point in the game, and were winning 38-14 before they put their JVs in. Coatesville was beating Wiss 42-7 before they put their JVs in… and the fact that they managed to adjust to Neshaminy in the third quarter after two quick scores proves they’re capable of shutting down any team. The same goes for Spring-Ford… A few adjustments and they were able to shut down Spring-Ford in the second half. There’s no doubt tomorrow that LaSalle will come out and score, but Coatesville’s coaches are some of the best in the state. They aren’t going sit and not make adjustments when LaSalle scores. Exepect them to wear LaSalle down with speed on both sides of the ball… including defense. Even if it means making adjustments for second half… they will find a way to get it done, like have been for the past 15 weeks.
@PCL Fan-
Opinions are like #$%#holes… Everybody has one..
“Fact is none of these teams were anywhere as good as Parkland and they scored pretty easily.”
Good luck PCL! Your opinion really means nothing. LaSalle is an awesome school.. with great Academics, with great kids, and a great football team!! You diminish the school’s reputation by your comments..
Good Luck tomorrow night! I wish you well and will pray for you my friend.. It should be a great game.
@ kmac
i preach the truth. they be like men among boys. Wolves among poodles. Cheetahs among some kind of small cats. They the real deal fo sho. come to the game on saturday and youll know what i mean.
PCL fan. your facts are way off. let me help. coatesville never trailed unionville one second of that game it was 14 to zero 5 min into the game. Nesh scored 14 of there 28 in the last two possesions of the game against our backups. coatesville has outscored there playoff opponents 202 to 77 so how could any of those games been close. granted Lasalle is better then the teams coatesville played so far, but coatesville has totally dominated the other teams they played that is what good teams do. they average over 50 points a game in the playoffs. out of those 77 points allowed 28 were against backups.and jimbo well aware good teams backups play when games are blowouts Coatesvilles starters didnt play a second half in there last six regular season games. was just trying to make a point coatesvilles defense is pretty good.
So all these players for Imhotep are genius’s eh?
Hard to believe, but if you say so…….
@ Josh sorry i was wrong Joe Kelchner was the q.b in 1989 for Berwick
@Jimbo
On another note thanks for the web site that is streaming audio of the La Salle vs Coatsville game. You were right on.
@ John
Who beat St. Peter’s Prep and when? Think Saint Joe’s Prep played them a few years ago but got crushed. Was there another game where a local team beat St. Peter’s Prep to which I’m unaware?
@Jimbo
You need to comprehend what is written as I said nothing to make anyone expect Garlick to be a polished player. I said he plays more like a Jr/Sr because does not make as many mental mistakes that most if not all Frosh would make. If he played like a Frosh believe me he would not be the starting QB in a program like Wood. He is obviously better than the Sr QB on the roster or the other QB that is a Soph. At times he plays like a Frosh because he is a Frosh and how many Frosh start at QB for the varsity at any level?
@ raider fan
Come on with trying to make the point the scoring Coatesville has given up was against their backups. That was only true against Wiss. Against Unionville they gave 21 and were behind in the 4th quarter. Against Spring Ford they gave up 21 and the game was within a touchdown in the second quarter. Against Nesh they gave up 28 and the game was within a touchdown in the middle of the third. That is 70 points that were all given up by the first team defense. Fact is none of these teams were anywhere as good as Parkland and they scored pretty easily.
@ Dan Gleesac
Thank you, Dan. That is one of the most entertaining posts I have ever seen on this site!
BTW, I am almost certain that markd is correct with Ron Powlus being a Freshman QB in 89 for Berwick and Dave Shinski being a Freshmen in 99 for Mount Carmel.
If it is a field that is considered a “home” field, shared or not, should not be used during the PIAA playoffs. That is something that needs to be discussed in the off-season. Scranton and Wilkes-Barre schools share the field and when they reach PIAA playoffs they could not play at that field. I understand it doesn’t create a major issue other than fan attendance however if Scranton and WB schools have to use other fields than everyone else should also.
I also still question the whole notion that was brought up before concerning District 12 and Thanksgiving games vs. playoffs. In District 2, if you schedule a Thanksgiving game does not opt a bye in the PIAA playoffs. I will check more into that question as I have the resources to do so.
@ mark d ron powlus was a freshman qb in 89. joe kelchner was starting qb against perry, a game they lost in the last 2 minutes because of a fumble on their own 20 yard line. powlus was starting qb as a soph in 90. won state title in 92 and was named usa today player of the year.
My 2 cents:
I have seen LaSalle several times and have only seen tape on C’ville. LS may not have as many pure athletes as C’Ville…I think LS will win with excellent coaching, discipline,toughness and big game experience.
NA out west has been making good teams look bad… just got their top running back to 100%. They are a machine and Walker, Jr. is a hall of fame coach like his dad was…. they have beat much better than Wilson this year an it will show… NA beats LS again in the championship.
@stendog
Imhotep does play @ Germantown field for home games as does a dozen other Philly Public League schools. Those 9 games there I think 6 were “home” games. As for playing football, I don’t think it’ll matter. These kids are tough!
yall dont know nothing. imhotep is the best team in philly and the state in all the PIAA. These boys can run like the wind. They bigger, stronger, and faster than any other team. They could win the AAA and AAAA divisions with 10 players on the field. No one has ever seen speed like this. They have kids running with the power of Mike Alstott and the speed of Barry Sanders. They have lineman the size of King Dunlap and the strength of ten men. Their recievers are faster than Randy Moss and have hands the size of baseball gloves. Their linebackers are stronger than Ray Lewis and smarter than Einstein. Their coaches have actually wrestled lions, thats how tough they are. They eat nails for breakfast and drink gasoline. Theyre pure bread fighting machines. Their school is top notch academics. Probably better than most colleges in the area. Im going to assume that they have better SAT scores than any other school. Their basketball program is better than yours.
@raider fan, LS backups have played half the season; if you were used to being successful you’d understand this is quite normal.
IC had 4 home games at Germantown; additional games were playoff games which D12 scheduled not IC. Inner city schools don’t have their own fields; multiple schools schedule games at Germantown.
If you really think it matters if they play this game at Germantown or Northeast, you’re kidding yourself.
@Phillyboy, Jiveturkey9 I apologize you guys are correct. They beat St Peters prep.
@ JiveTurkey9
Right. Since ’03 Prep went 1-1 against Gilman, 1-1 against St. Ignatius, 0-1 vs. PCC, 0-2 vs. Bosco, and 1-0 vs. St. Anthony (Long Island) and I think 0-1 vs. St. Peter’s Prep and 0-1 to Hilliard (Columbus, Ohio). Cardinal O’hara lost to Colerain, and got annihilated by Bosco. And more recently LaSalle went 0-2 to Bergen Catholic. They are the main interstate tussles against high profile programs more recently.
Deo, Garlick is a freshman; at times, he plays like one. Don’t make others expect a polished player which is what a jr/sr would be. The best thing about Garlick is he does exactly what is asked of him and doesn’t try to do more. He’s learning; he’s a work in progress and in a few years, watch out. This year, he’s a good freshman QB, nothing more, nothing less.
@ Jimbo
Forgot to mention that I heard Imohtep has played 9 games on that field this year.
Cville gave up 28 points in playoffs do to mercy rule were Cville defensive backups were facing other teams first team offense. Neshimmeny scored 14 points against backups. Cville defense not that bad springford had 201 total yards good portion of those were against backups.
@ Jimbo
I understand it’s not Imohteps home field, just wondering why it’s not a location more in between the two schools. Doesn’t matter, game has to be played on the field.
@Josh not 100% sure but wasn’t Ron Powlus a freshman Q.B. when Berwick lost to Perry in the states in 89.Any Berwick guys out their that can answer that?
Shinski? Mount Carmel?
Tom Garlick comes from a very athletic family as his father for Father Judge from QB to special teams and I believe played for Northwestern and his uncle Tom played a little in the pros. The kid is a winner and plays more like a Jr/Sr with hardly any mental errors you would expect from a Frosh.
Does anybody out there know the last time a freshman QB helped lead his team to a PIAA championship game? If Archbishop Wood wins this weekend, Fr. QB Tom Garlick will have accomplished that feat. Very curious to know if any 9th grader has ever helped lead a team to a PIAA title game before. Need QB’s name, school & year if any have ever done this before. Thanks!
I think Lasalle wins! I think the pressure will get to Coatesville! They had a great season but I think they choke in this one! Lasalle 31 Coatesville 14!
@Stendog, since you don’t understand how PIAA sites work, let me help.
The hosting district provides a non-home field site for the game. Districts switch hosting each year; in AA, D12 hosts this year. Germantown is not Imhotep’s home field so it qualifies; there are other criteria such as turf fields, etc. but there’s nothing to cry about with Imhotep playing at Germantown.
@Jimbo
Your good, there is only one ball.
@ Clark31C
“Crushed” by NA might be a little overstated. They did shut La Salle down offensively but 21-0 after La Salle gave up 6 turnovers? With 6 TOs the score should have been 35-0. If not for the two reverse plays the score probably would have been 7-0 NA. But “if” is for children. Have it your way, they crushed La Salle.
I do think they spent themselves emotionally in the NP game the week before. Greatest football game I have ever seen in person, pro, college or high school.
@ Nobody
They can only play the teams that are put on their schedule. And as long as they beat them, who cares. Sort of like Larry Holmes not being considered a great champion because of some of the stiffs he had to face. But you know what, he was a great champion.
La Salle 35 Coatesville 24
@C.T thank you I think i am going to head out to that game.Heard they had a lot of trouble with Delone running game,if they dont play the run well look out !
@rayzanna, there is one ball, not four.
Good luck to Coatesville, hopefully they’ve discovered defense in the past week.
@deo, the audio for LS-Coatesville should be broadcast on wche1520.com
@Phillyboy, I was thinking the same thing about Prep playing Bergen. Looked at their schedules back to 2000 and they didn’t play them. In ’06 and ’07 Prep play Bosco, maybe a little confusion between the 2 on Johns part.
@Nobody, You have lost all credibility after that silly post. You have no clue about Philly football. Roman wouldn’t go 500 and Frankford would crack the 600 mark? Ryan, Judge, and Roman, would all be over 500 in that league. Frankford and Washington would have a hell of a shot as well. Come back and post on Saturday after your Champion loses by 30.
Everybody on here has alot of mouth about this Coatesville vs Lasalle game. If they both show up and play it should come down to the wire or even who has the ball last. Like who really cares about SJP right now they lost and arent playing right now. Just wounding if the players on Lasalle talk has much trash has everybody on here. Just show up FRIDAYNIGHT at the game and lets see what happens , but nobody’s going to have a walk in the park like these last few games on both sides . So lets support both teams , Coatesville fans support theirs and Lasalle you support yours. Also remember ‘LASALLE’ what happened when you went to states and got crushed by NORTH ALLEGNEY like hitting a brick wall, so if you do win ????????? it may be a rematch so you better show up for that one. GOOD LUCK , LETS GO COATESVILLE [ BRING IT ]
How is that AA semifinal is being played in Philadlephia, just few miles away from Imohtep? Thought it was a neutral site?
@Nobody Coatesville played unionville, Wiss, neshaminy, springford.
I’m not even going to touch on unionville who were the great teams they played? Sun valley? oxford? please
Next Wiss; they beat Wiss 42-21. Wissahickon LOST to Arch. Ryan 29-21, Lasalle beat Ryan 31-0. So one of the lower teams in the PCL was able to beat a D1 team that gave DT East a loss and gave Coatesville some trouble! Wow!
Neshaminy, please this isnt the same state title contending team we are used to from 5 years back, 3 losses in Suburban league that is having a very down year.
Spring-ford, I’d say this is the best team Cville has played, SF dominated all year, but played in a horrible division. But still nothing compared to the St Joe’s team Lasalle had to play(who was ranked 18th in the nation when LS played them).
@Nobody
SJP is the third best team in the state. Coatesville has not beaten anyone in the top 20
@Nobody
This is the typical post that you get from a fan of a program like Coatesville. This is a program that has been totally invisible on the high school football scene for 20 + years, now they stick their head out of the ground once every two decades and you want to talk smack about a perennial powerhouse, a program that has played in more big games in the past five years then Coatesville has in its entire weak history. Enjoy your brief moment in the sun and we’ll see you again in another 20 years.
@ Mark d nope i know very little about Bellwood but looked at schedule not impressed
Hey-
@phillyboy/Jimmy/@ Paul from Philly… Good luck this weekend..
Beat Roman (they couldn’t go .500 In Suburban 1, Chesmont, or the Central League)
Beat SJP (great win.. the only legitimate team they play)
Beat Frankford (would go barely .600 in Suburban 1 , Chesmont or Central League and NOT make D1 playoffs)
Bye ( they are very good…just saying!!!! Great win!!!)
Beat Parkland (only a run game.. no passing game) Congrats………. A statement win by School standards…
LaSalle has the EASIEST run to the Eastern Final.. They basically have to win ONE game.. vs. SJP.
See you at Downingtown West on Saturday….
@rayzanna
I hope coatesville line can give the QB more than 2 seconds to throw the ball
i like the way phillyboy thinks
@rayzanna why do you think LaSalle can’t cover the 4 skilled positions? They have the line to stop the run up the middle, D1 class LBs, one of the top CBs in SEPA who ran down Parklands fastest RB and Coleman at FS. What are they missing? Oh ya there D Coordinator has proven the ability to get it done.
Why don’t you give us your view.
Phillyboy, Have you seen this Coatesville team play? rayzanna is right.
Can’t get to the LaSalle vs Coatsville game on Friday night so does anyone know if it will be televised or live streamed or even broadcasted on radio? I have noticed that most NJ high school games are televised no matter the importance and small town high school games of all classes are on tv and of course out in western pa the same.
WOW Phillyboy, you sure do have a lot of confidence in LaSalle. There defense better show up. I hope the can cover more the 4 skilled position players at the same time.
@ John
When was that, when did Prep beat Bergen? Was unaware that they had played.
@raider fan, no CVille is a little bit better on offense since then. But they haven’t played a team as good as East since that game.
@PCL FAN
Thanks. I was thinking about four years. And I thought one of the Jersey teams gave them a bloody lip in the past couple of years but I wasn’t sure about them scoring over 40.
You brought up Malvern in your post. Did anyone see the Malvern Coatesville game? What happened there? La Salle played Malvern this year and basically the mercy rule was in affect!?
It’s all about how a team is playing right now, and LaSalle and Coatesville are both very talented teams having tremendous seasons and winning when it counts. Personally, I expect LaSalle vs. Coatesville to be a high-scoring, close game. Neshaminy and Spring-Ford both exploited major weaknesses in the Coatesville defense, but the explosive Coatesville offense took over when it mattered most. I expect LaSalle to exploit the same weaknesses and score more points than Coatesville’s previous 2 opponents.
However, I also expect the Coatesville offense to do the same thing, although I can’t see them dropping 50+ on the Explorers. Yes, LaSalle took a high-scoring Parkland offense and shut them down for 48 minutes, but the way Coatesville’s offense is clicking right now puts them in a different class than the more one-dimensional Parkland offense. LaSalle hasn’t faced an offense like this all year long. Likewise, Coatesville hasn’t faced a defense like this all year long. Should be a great game.
Picks for the weekend:
Coatesville
North Allegheny
Bishop McDevitt
Archbishop Wood
Aliquippa
Imhotep
Clairton
Dunmore
Heres what i got.
A Clairton Vs Dunmore
AA Alaquippa Vs Imhotep
AAA Cathedral Prep Vs Wood
AAAA N. Allegheny Vs LAsalle
Well said by my good buddy the Facts. Accurately sums up Imhotep’s program, thank you and good night to all the whiners. The Facts says:
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:01 am
My buddy Jim, I see you have continue your disgraceful racist comments towards Imhotep on another thread. Well, I’m here again to counter your perception with solid facts! Listen and read closely:
1. on the other thread you claim you had a problem with Imhotep’s Mission Statement. This forces us to research the statement and find out why. My research found that the statement mentions its mission as an AFRICAN centered educational community. Why do you have a problem with this? There are numerous ethic educational institutions throughout the country including the current #1 ranked NCAA football team. Tell us why do you have a problem with this and this will explain why you had the problem in the first place.
2. You gave us Imhotep’s offensive line average height and weight. Awesome, guess what, they all return next year (no seniors). Also, everyone of them came to Imhotep as freshmen (no transfers). If you check Imohotep’s 2010 roster –> http://www.tedsilary.com/imhotepFB10.htm you will see they are all there as freshmen and guess what, they were smaller kids. As matter of fact, their two 6-5 Jr Offensive tackles were just 6-3 & 6-2 back then. Can you believe that? Can you believe the 6-3 kid who grew to 6-5 in 3 years didn’t start for JV last year? Wow! If you were a coach, you would understand every kid has a light in their head and when that light comes on…WATCH OUT. Also, Imhotep’s RT, Center (team captain), and their LG all started for Imhotep as freshmen… They are all straight ‘A’ honor roll students! It’s there Jr year Buddy, that light came on and they are dominating every opponent they line up against because of it! Oh, and colleges are noticing it! You did mention a story for a movie right?
3. I gave you a copy of all the rosters for the last 4 years and you saw all of this year starters except for two has been with Imhotep since freshmen or sophomores.
4. Would you believe if I told you that over 90% of Imhotep’s players are from the Germantown, Mt Airy, and West Oak Lane communities? Imhotep serves these and two other neighborhoods. These communities has 4 youth teams currently playing for the National pee-wee football super bowls in Florida as we speak so the future looks bright for all the surrounding schools. So you can have your boundaries, they will still dominate.
5. You and CT Coach (my good friend) state Imhotep has no tradition? Tradition is functional and alive within the program. Their rich tradition and is rooted in the African culture. Watch their game and see what they do before and after each game and you will see tradition. Watch the Pen argyl game and you will see the tradition of sportsmanship and how they help players up off the turf after a hard tackle. That’s TRADITION, thats honor, thats coaching!
6. Jim buddy, you never heard of Imhotep? Did you know that #27, SS for the USC Trojans, was a graduate of Imhotep high and their all time leading rusher? Did you know #3, QB for Temple Owls, was a student and QB for Imhotep until he transferred to GW, oh…btw, he’s 6-3. Did you know Imhotep has players playing D1,D2,and D3 football all over the country? They been here for a while buddy..
7. Lastly, Imhotep did have two significant transfers this year. One had no choice and the other made his choice. I will not talk issues concerning kids on this forum but to rebuke your false statement about them having 15 new kids this year has to be challenged. Only 2 on-field producing kids transferred in last year! JUST TWO, not 15! These are the facts Jim, and you trying to ruin a raising inner city team’s success with tainted nonfactual lies is distasteful and without class.
In closing Jim, just tell us the real reason you may have a problem with inner city kids being successful in a game of football and then let us know why they you have a problem with their mission statement…. Time yours!
@raider fan
Maybe you should talk to Parkland who won 11 in a row and averaged 40 pts a game and WERE on a roll…yes it really does matter how you are playing now….like LaSalle’s defense…..looking forward to a great game
I would love to buy into the Coatesville hype. I hope they’re as good as some say. But got to keep it real, Coatesville is gonna get clobbered. After seeing the dismantling of Parkland, Coatesville can take their D1 title and wish LaSalle well at Hershey. If Coatesville loses by less than 30 they can consider it a moral victory.
@Kevin, it’s all about the competition; who in D1 plays ANY defense? Nobody.
Also what makes Lasalle & Prep standout from other schools, kids can’t just transfer into these schools. When Gil Brooks left prep they had to start all over, they couldn’t just transfer kids in, coaches had to work with what they had. From my understanding North Jerseys schools don’t have these same challenges.
@paul from philly, last time Prep played Bergen the beat them. Also I think Lasalle & prep would’ve beaten any of the North Jersey teams this yr.
Parkland literally hit a brick wall in LaSalle’s Def Line and LB’s. They were overmatched by 20-30 lbs across the line – thoroughly dominated in all phases of line play. No matter how good the skill players are, they need time and space to execute. If Cville’s O-Line can handle LaSalles Def schemes and give their skill players time and space, then game on. Otherwise, I anticipate a similar result (perhaps closer score) to the PK game.
@RICK do you really think CVILLE is playing the same now as they played when they played east? Football doesnt work that way.
Paul LaSalle gave up 41 last year to Bergen and 47 in 2008 to Malvern.
@KEVIN East is overrated but lit up your defense? Guess what La Salle is just as good on offense but has a monster defense. Plus LaSalle has weapons in the slot that CVille Lbs and safeties struggled with all year.
Sean Coleman should have a career day, which is scary.
How does Coatesville conpare to St. Joe’s Prep?
Lasalle is a very talented well coached team. everyone knows that. but anyone who knows football should be aware its how you are playing now that matters not how you played in week 2 or 3 so to compare passed results doesn,t matter ask the new york gaints last yr if they cared they were a 9 – 7 team going into the playoffs they still won the the superbowl. some teams take a liitle bit to find there identity. Cville is playing as good as anybody right now. thats all that matters. should be a GREAT GAME.
I am honestly amazed at how badly some of you spell on here.
Rick says:
December 3rd, 2012 at 11:13 am
Finally Coatesville gets a test. I’ve never seen an easier path for a team through the playoffs. Every team they have faced came off an upset of a higher ranked team.
Rick, have you seen the scores? C’mon man !!!! No team other than an overrated D EAST team scored more than 28 Points? C’ mon man
@Dan
This is reminiscent of last year when ACC strolled through the the playoffs beating inferior competition before getting waxed by Wood. You talk about McDermott, last they they had Nosovitch and Gulyas and still lost by 8 touchdowns. You are now up against the real deal not Selinsgrove or Wyoming Valley. As long as the refs aren’t from Dist 11 the location won’t matter.
If you havent been to one of the 4 Coatesville games, 204 points in 4 games, Wake up, I have never seen a high school team play to this caliber! I’m sure La Salle is good, but Im sure in they cant handle THIS COATESVILLE team. Regardsless of stats see ya all friday night.
C-ville 38 La Salle 28
@CT coach do you know anything about Bellwood-Antis?
I don’t have a horse in either AAA/AAAA matchup but just some observations.
AAA
I attended the Lasalle dismantling of Parkland and must say not at all impressed with Parkland. Parkland had tons of hype but I didnt see it. Wood would also have put a beat down on Parkland. Parkland beat ACC by 30 points or so earlier in the year. Parkland struggled to get across mid field vs LaSalle and based on the few games I have seen from Wood, they would struggle against Wood as well. Wood’s line would impose their will on Parkland much like LaSalle did. If ACC could only muster 14 points vs Parkland, and gave up 40+ to Parkland, they could be in some serious trouble vs Wood. Lasalle is better tha Wood this year but not but much. More than anything though is that I find it hard to believe ACC can hold Wood to under 30 points. ACC will have to put up 35 to win this one, and without Nos and Kevin G, I would be shocked if that happened. I love the McDermott kid and all that he has accomplished, but he alone will not win this game. Wood’s game plan, I imagine is to take him out of the mix and force ACC to throw all night. Much like last year, Wood’s enormous/athletic line will impose their will on ACC defense. Wood’s line is not as good as last year, of course, but they are very very good.
AAAA
Coatesville is putting up some ridiculously scary numbers the last few weeks. They have not played great team, but they also have not played the Little Sisters of the poor either. They are high powered and will throw many different looks at you, and this could cause problems for Lasalle. Coatesville will be the most athletic team LS faces all year. BUT..and here is the BUT..Lasalle has Gordon. If this game is close at half or early 3rd period, Gordon will make adjustments and it could prove to be the difference. I hear they hype about Coateville athletes, but LS has their fair share as well. If LS jumps on Coateville earlier it could prove the difference here. LS has been here th last 4 years.Experience will matter.
@ paul from philly from what i seen on film speed kills i don’t think LaSalle can keep up but it’s going to be fun to watch should be a classic I know one of the starting CB for LaSalle, lives up the street from me so i hope im wrong
@CT Coach
Have to go back in the archives to find out the last team to score over 40 against La Salle. Maybe, and I said maybe, one of the Jersey teams from a couple of years ago but certainly no one from Pa. for a really long time.
COASTVILLE 41 LaSELLE 28 WOOD 28 CENTRAL CATH. 22 IMHOTEP 45 WYOMISSING 13 DUNMORE 35 BELLWOOD-ANTIS 14
Make no mistake, this La Salle team is as good if not better than the Downingtown East team that last beat Coatesville. La Salle 28-14
Finally Coatesville gets a test. I’ve never seen an easier path for a team through the playoffs. Every team they have faced came off an upset of a higher ranked team.
As good as Mcdermott is he is just one running back. ACC is one dimensional they really do not have a pass game and as we saw with parkland eventually being one dimensional can only take you so far. ACC is a quality team but i do not see them beating Wood if Wood loads the box and shuts Mcdermott down.I think only an overconfident Wood could cause an ACC victory. But crazier things have happened it will be interesting to see!
? size does not win in HS, speed and athletes in the right positions do.
@chuck didn’t you say Dunmore is not that impresssive? That Southern Columbia Should have won? That Bristol was going to win 21-7?? ok just checking
@Dan, Nice to see that you are a proud fan. Just a couple points for you to think about. McDermott is a very good player indeed. However he is averaging 227 per game so I don’t think 200 would be a bad game for him. Getting 35 totes per game also helps with them yardage numbers. As for being one of the best backs in the history of PA high school football? C’mon, don’t let all of that ACC pride blind you. Like I said, he is a very good back, but he wouldn’t be in the top 25 in the past 10 years, let alone in the history of PA. By my posts you can tell that I am not a Wood fan at all, so I wish you guys luck. This weeks game should be a good match-up. Losing may not be a bad thing. Do you really want your seniors to finish their career with a drubbing at the hands of McDevitt? Break out the scooper and rake the leaves in your backyard, I’m sure Wood’s bus won’t get lost, so they will probably shake off the fear and show up.
Is it true that 3/5 of the C-Ville line weigh in at 285, 280, and 290?
If so, this could be tough for LaSalle. Size wins in highschool football, and that’s a clear advantage for Coatesville.
How is their coaching staff?
Here we go boys the count down is on for friday night under the lights. Coatesville vs Lasalle , this is going to be a really good game between to well coached teams and alot of good talent . They are both really good on both sides of the ball and can score alot of points. So bring your crowd to the game and lets see what you got . C-ville will fill the stands and will be loud. Good luck to both teams, but COATESVILLE on top with the win. COATESVILLE 35 – Lasalle 24 and see you and all of C-ville in [ HERSHEY ] Lets-Go-Boyz C-ville grad 1996
@raiderfan, should be a worthy eastern final. People who know football know Coatesville is the real deal. Don’t worry about the rest.
Just a word to the obnoxious Wood fans. Don’t get too cocky. McDermott is one of the greatest running backs in PA history. 200 yards rushing is a bad game for him. And our line is huge. Nobody has stopped him all year. And we haven’t forgotten last year. This year the game is in OUR BACKYARD.So don’t get lost coming up to bethlehem. See you friday night.
@philly
PA private school teams will rarely ever compete with North Jersey Powers like Don Bosco or Bergen Cath. They are held to a different standard and it is well known they recruit that region from Hoboken, Patterson, Newerk etc. Until PA places the PCL and other private schools into a class where they can openly recruit, they won’t be as powerful.
@raider fan I think there is great respect for Cville out there. It just looks real dumb when all yous cville fans complain about not being ranked high when Coatesville lost to Malvern and DT East. Malvern’s record 6-5 this year, thats bad loss especially when Lasalle beat them 38-6. That being said I think Cville is MUCH improved and has a real good shot against Lasalle.
@Sam i was also at the Dunmore Bristol game and i am with you on bristol play.How ever their was an artical in i believe it called the Philly Berg,where the Bristol coach calls out one of the most respected coaches in the state Jack Henzes for are you ready for this, teaching his players to play dirty !!!Bristol my hats off to you you have great kids may be they can teach their coach something.
p.s i am not a Dunmore fan
@phillyboy
Just like La Salle is D 11’s Daddy? Bergen Catholic is on the national level along with Don Bosco, etc. Say what you want about La Salle and recruiting if it makes you feel good, those Jersey schools take it to another level. I guess when you think of it, La Salle is D 12’s Daddy too!
Phillyboy, even La Salle is allowed to have one bad game every 2 years of so.
Jimbo should be a great game. Lots of respect for Lasalle. dont think much respect for Cville is out there based on there rankings. just want the people no they can ball.
The thing that gets me about LaSalle, the time I was really rooting for them, when they played Bergen Catholic, why couldn’t they play like that then when they were defending the pride of PA football so to speak? Bergen Catholic was their daddy.
@CT
You were right on. The RB from Bristol is a very good. I am sure we will hear about him in the next 2 years.
@chief
La Salle 42-3
@tsaf77 I told you about that bristol RB the kid is a 10th grade Bristol should repeat Congratz to imhotep ,lasalle ,wood,dunmore
Coatesville 48-Lasalle-14
@wolfman, you’re starting to sound like the D11 stooges. AW last year and AW this year are two entirely different teams. The 2011 AW team was a team that AW will most likely never see again.
That said, this AW team is at least 3 scores better than this ACC team. Plus Buddy picked ACC; this guy is the kiss of death; make it 4 scores Since Buddy likes ACC.
@raider fan, don’t fear, LaSalle will show up!
LS defense better be lights out. Cville offense can beat you in so many ways. load up the box to stop there run you better have great one on one cover guys. if you go two deep safties they will run the football all night.they are big and very very fast and probably have the best QB. in the area.
Congrats to the winners this weekend. Saw a good game between Dunmore and Bristol. Dunmore line is very powerful and their two backs are very good. Bristol’s RB was the most electrifying athlete on the field making positive yardage out of would be stops in the backfield. That kid has a great future.
We are down to the final two for the eastern reps.
Early Predictions.
Dunmore over Bellwood
Wood over ACC
La Salle over Coatesville
Imhotep and Wyomissing is hard to judge with both teams posting lopsided victories.
Imhotep looks like the favorite especially having all 1 way starters.
warriorpoet, it might not be recruiting in the sense of college teams. What it is though, that kids know what non public schools are doing to build perenial playoff teams. If one can afford it and it could mean getting into a better college, why would a kid not want to play for that school(s)
@ Jay Farmer and anyone who comments about recruiting,
Lets make a hypothetical situation here, say you and your 8th grade son who plays football move to the Philadelphia Area(lets just say Montgomery County). Let’s assume that you are Catholic and your kid has gone to a Catholic grade school his whole life. Now you got a choice to go ANY PHILA. ARCHDIOCESAN HIGH SCHOOL or your local Public school. Where are you sending your kid???? I’ll answer for you: Lasalle, Wood, or Prep.
Please tell me where the recruiting is being done to bring your son to Lasalle, Wood, or Prep! None of yous people who live outside of Philly realize the reputation that surrounds these schools academically and athletically. Most people in the Phila. area are Catholic and naturally they send their kids to a Catholic school!
@warriorpoet
I could not agree more with your last comment.
@Jay Faramer
wheres the proof? Or can you just not deal with the fact that the talent level is better at the catholic schools and the coaching is alot better
@Jay Farmer
You are making very bold, damaging comments. You should be prepared to back them up. Since you are so sure that reciting is taking place, give the specific names of players at LaSalle and Wood that you are so sure have been recruited.
You are confusing geographic distance with recruiting. If a student travels more than a few miles to school then you automatically assume that recruiting is taking place and you are wrong. For example, the best players on LaSalle….Coleman, Hoffman, Spiteri, Naji, Herron….not a single one was recruited. The landscape has changed and these are now the powerhouse programs and you and all the other posters out there who cry “recruiting” every time a Catholic League team has success must learn to deal with it. These teams have better coaches, great winning traditions, and outstanding education opportunities. Those factors are what “recruit” kids to the schools and nothing else.
Parkland only runnning could only take them so far. La Salle loaded the box baby and stopped the run, something Del Val did not understand the week before. It’s amazing what scouting can do along with common sense!
Not even a contest La salle cruised to that win. Coatesville vs LS should be a fun game i think La Salle has the advantage, that defense is lights out
La Salle defense had a field day today. Steinmetz had it all locked up right from the beginning. Parkland looked like a one trick pony after a while. Coleman was the MVP today like he’s been all year. Anybody who knows high school football knows that was, well you know.
Just got home from the LaSalle – Parkland game wow what a mismatch. If Parkland is the best AAAA team in Dist 11 then it is way down this year. Parkland was very small upfront, LaSalle completely dominated the line of scrimmage had at least 12 sacks. I ‘m sure that Parkland had net negative yards after 3 qtrs, they consistently had 4th and 15 to 20 yards to go to make a first down on almost every drive. Still not convinced LaSalle has the talent to win a state championship this year but they were by far superior in every aspect today.
last night saw dunmore vs. bristol dunmore looks very strong they need a little more passing to keep other teams from loading the box however no one has been able to stop there ground game so far, even while loading up for the run they have great players throughout there lineup even southern columbia could not stop them tailback/ linebacker austin seamon seems to make big plays whenever they find themselves struggling you got to watch film of this game to see his impact an incredible performance also bristol was very good there tailback is excellent however they were the dirtiest team i saw in my memory i attend lots of games all over eastern pa the coach needs to reign in the unsportsmanlike behavior of his team ie; taunting late hits fighting and complaining i was surprised that only 1 of his players was ejected this marred what was otherwie a great game.
Just returned from the La Salle – Parkland game. Maybe Parkland had a bad day but if that is truly what they are they would get destroyed by Prep and struggle with Roman. La Salle’s defense totally dominated. In the first two series of the second half I think La Salle had 5 tackles for a loss. The Explorers were very impressive today on both sides of the ball and way more physical than Parkland.
Mikey,
Concerning Lehigh Valley schools bringing a lot of fans to away games, I was at ACC/Abington Heights game, probably less than 100 fans to see a fine team play a great game. Valley View is only one hour and 15 minutes from Allentown.
@wolfman
you just proved my previous comment….i didn’t say aac would win…i said you’re a stooge who has an opinion based on nothing because you have not seen acc….(i’d be surprised if you have seen wood)…and you proved me right by your latest entry…by the way…what does last yr have to do with this yr…i stand by my opinion of people like you…everything that is wrong with high school sports…
What a game lastnight Coatesville over Spring-ford 59-28 . Its great to see another team in the district [1] area up top on the charts . Coatesville is very well coached and is ready for anything that comes at them . Today we will find out who we will play Lasalle or Parkland . And for everybody talking about [North Allegheny ] they play nobody even close to them to me it looks like easy wins and games all the time . Just take a look at thier playoff brk . But one game at a time and we will find out who’s who on here . Like i said before [ SPEED KILLS ] here comes COATESVILLE …..
ACC will beat Wood. It should be a close game though. I don’t think ACC can stop them from scoring due to their running game, ACC will simple have to out-score them, and I think they can.
Ron ( from below) has it about right.
Whoever wins the LaSalle/Parkland ( hopefully Parkland), won’t get past Coatesville. Althoug it will also be a tight game.
From all appearances, no one gets past NA.
@Johnny
Perhaps I don’t understand what I’m talking about so I need your help….
Last year ACC had a QB who was recruited to play in the SEC and a WR who gained more yards than any receiver in the history of PA football. Yet despite that they were pasted 70-14 by Wood and it could have been far worse, as hard as that is to believe. This year ACC has neither of those stud players back and you still think that they will beat Wood? Help me understand……
@RON
Looking at all of your previous posts you are obviously a fan of Lehigh Valley area football. It has clearly clouded your judgement…..Wood will dominate a small ACC team, not to the rediculous level of last year but it will only take you a few minutes of watching to realize who the vastly superior team is. Like @wolfman, I was at the game last year and it was the most lopsided physical mismatch of any high school game that I had ever seen. Despite losing all of those D1 linemen, Wood remains much more physical and much larger on the line of scrimmage than ACC. Guckin is just as good as McDermott, and the freshman QB won’t matter because he will not need to throw much. After ACC gets blown out I’m sure that we won’t hear from you again.
@wolfman
.acc did not have any 195lb lineman last yr…you haven’t seen acc this yr yet you make statements based on what…nothing…how do you know wood is far physically superior…let me answer that for you…you don’t…as i have said in the past…people like you ruin this site and high school sports in general…you have no idea what you are talking about and Mika lets you put it on the site…
apologies to larry, moe, and curly…
Any one out their know anything about Bellwood-Antis?What do they run passing team, running team defence they run ?
Im picking ACC over WOOD in eastern final
1. home district field advantage
2. running back Mcdermott who will be hard to stop for wood.
3. wood using a freshman qb is asking for trouble in this emotionable game.
4. my prediction Acc 21 Wood 14.
Jimbo, PArkland had closer to 500 fans and 2 coach busses. COngrats Dunmore!
I saw in person last years Wood – ACC game. ACC had Nosovitch and the WR who had great stats in the dink and dunk offense that ACC runs. As soon as I saw ACC’s 195 lb linemen run onto the field, my first impression was “uh oh”. Wood dominated in a way that I have never seen before, it is absolutely no stretch to say that Wood would have easily scored 100 if they left their starters in for the entire game. This year, Wood is not the same, but ACC has no Nosovitch. Wood is still by far physically superior to ACC on the line of scrimmage, and this game will be a 3 or 4 TD domination by Wood, who remains far superior to ACC in every way.
Early line: Wood by 3 TDs over ACC.
Can Wood stop ACC C. McDermott? A team effort in ACC win over the SEALS!!!! Good Luck… ACC lost over 15 seniors and 8 coaches from 2011. Coach John Cupples, gets my vote for Coach of the year.
My alma matter Coatesville! Yeah Buddy! Don’t care who is next we got too many weapons. The show we put on tonight was incredible! Shout to number #1 from Spring-Ford.
Just announced,Wood vs ACC on 12/7 at Bethlehem Area School District Stadium.
@D11 football,if you know anything about high school football (doesn’t that sound arrogant, copied from you) you would realize “that division” hasn’t that gotten past D12 since 2008. See, two can play that juvenile game.
@phillyboy, I guess that’s why Parkland had a whopping 300 fans at Del Val. Please stick to Philly, you don’t know D11.
@rayzanna If C’Ville makes it to Hershey, I agree that they have a better shot at beating Wilson or Harrisburg than they do against NA. But a C’Ville/NA Final would be awesome to see.
One game at a time though… The key to Spring-Ford winning tonight is clear – stop the Coatesville offense early and often to get in their heads… and hold on tight for 48 minutes. A fast start for Coatesville and the outcome could be decided early. So pumped for this game.
Jay,
I agree with you. Coatsville has been very strong this whole season. I saw them for the fist time against Nashamity. I think if Coatsvilles defense can play excellent ball I don’t think they can be stopped. I think they get to the state championship but will probably loose to the Allegheny. I will also be there tonight. Watch out for the rent a cops that when you are leaning on that fence. I will be on SF side up top on the 30 yard line.
Parkland-LaSalle game will be very close. LaSalle needs to develop a rush game that keeps Parkland off balance because I expect Moncman to blitz a lot and get hits on LaSalle QB Kane. He’ll complete his fare share of passes and the Explorers will be on the move often.
Parkland needs to complete a couple passes early to get LaSalle’s keys off the Parkland ground game. Parkland has a lot of speed and I don’t know if LaSalle can handle it!?!? Parkland has continuous rotation of OL/RB’s/WR’s that enter and leave the game. So endurance won’t be a problem.
I expect this game to be close and come down to the end. Can’t predict a winner (because that’s easy and stupid). I’m probably one of the few people on this site who have seen Parkland and lasalle in person or on film more than once.
I would like to wish the Dunmore Bucks the best of luck in tonights game against Bristol. Dunmore is a classy program guided by first rate coaches and parents.I think that one of the difference makers against SOUTHERN COLUMBIA may have been coach Bob Judge. He was a Riverside assistant coach for a number of years and during his tenure Riverside beat Southern twice in the playoffs. Dunmore did some things that they had not done all year.I wonder if coach Judge brought in some 2010 game tape of the Riverside game. Anyway good luck Dunmore and hope to see you in the state championship.
Ever since the D’town East game, a game which they lost in the very last seconds yet held their own against the eventual D1 AAAA #1 seed, Coatesville has destroyed everyone in their path. Ortega’s move to the spread offense (Malvern Prep dodged a bullet there in week 2 btw) has unlocked some serious skill players who can play in their element and strike quickly. Not to mention QB Emmett Hunt who has 2,576 yards and 36 TDs with only 1 interception… really?? I’d like to see how this stacks up all-time to PA QBs, at least QB Rating.
Coatesville has been my pick for Eastern Champ since the playoffs started, so I fully expect them to win at Downingtown West (my alma mater & where I used to play, go figure) tomorrow night. I expect it to be close and I expect Kottmeyer Stadium to be incredibly packed beyond belief.
And I’ll be there standing at the fence, right next to the sign telling me not to.
@ Mikey
The Lehigh Valley teams get huge community support even at away games. They literally have a convoy of charter busses. They don’t play around.
Yea he is still coaching. The head coach for liberty was Monchman who is now D coordinator.
@phillyboy There’s not gonna be a whole lot of community support coming down to NE Philly,,
Is Morgans still the head coach of Parkland? Couple of Fri. nights ago, was half asleep while listening to the 12th Man Show. Thought I heard that Moncman, the former Liberty coach is an assistant at Parkland. If that’s true, Parkland has a dream team coaching staff. Finally, LaSalle won’t have a big advantage with coaching. With Parkland’s size, power, tradition, and community support I like their chances.
@ D11football
Nothing meant by the comment. Just sayin’ that’s alot of points per game. Plus I wanted to do my Keith Jackson impersonation.
@paul, if you know anything about high school football you know that “that division”, referring to the LVC, sent a team to the state championship 5 times during the last decade (2000-2010). Parkland in the state championship twice (won once), and Liberty was there three times and won once. So parkland averaging 40 points a game is not a discredit to the power conference that the LVC is, it is a testament to how skilled a team they are this year.
Southern Columbia had a bad game against Dunmore. If they had a few more minutes left on the clock they would have silenced the bucks with a stunning comeback. I’ve seen this Dunmore team play several times, please do not hype them up to be the beasts of the east. Bristol shocked a great WV team last week and I have a feeling they’ll do the same to Dunmore this friday night. Bristol 21-7
I just looked up Parkland’s schedule and results. As Keith Jackson would say, “Wooooow Nellie”. Do they play defense in that division? They averaged over 40 pts. a game.
@CLARK31C seems like you’re the only one on this site who has as much faith in Coatesville as I do… I too think they can make it to Hershey, and I hope they do because I love being right, but if they meet North Allegheny, Hunt/Worley/Boggs/Jones & Co. better take it to an even higher level, because they haven’t seen a defense anywhere close to what NA will bring. Let’s worry about Spring-Ford first, though!
That being said, my picks for this weekend:
COATESVILLE – wins D1 title on archrival (any my alma mater) Downingtown’s home turf
LASALLE – I soooo want to pick Parkland. I just can’t see it happening.
WOOD – With all due respect to the Interboro D, Guckin runs wild and Wood wins easily.
ACC – Honestly, I don’t know anything about Selinsgrove. I do know that ACC turns it on this time of year since they don’t have to play D11 AAAA powerhouses anymore
IMHOTEP – Destined for Hershey for an incredible showdown with the Quips (scariest A/AA team in the state and yes that includes Clairton)
WYOMISSING
DUNMORE
BELLWOOD-ANTIS
Interboro is a good little AAA neighborhood school- well coached with tough kids- too bad they have to face a regional high school
Many new names but it’s about time Rick did a okay job
Southeastern Pennsylvania’s Top Cornerbacks
1. Daryl Worley, Penn Charter, senior, 6-foot-2, 165
2. John Reid, St. Joseph’s Prep, so., 5-10, 175
3. Najee Goode, Imhotep Charter, sr., 5-10, 170
4. Spencer Rymiszewski, West Chester Henderson, sr., 6-0, 180
5. Terrell Smith, Episcopal Academy, jr., 5-11, 165
6. Dad Poquie, La Salle, sr., 5-10, 180
7. John Kim, Pennridge, sr., 5-10, 170
8. Shaquille James, West Catholic, sr., 5-9, 150
9. Ryon Muse, Pennsbury, sr., 5-7, 155
10. Michael Fowler, Pottsgrove, so., 5-10, 165
11. Matt Rushton, Episcopal Academy, sr., 5-11, 185
12. Nyeem Thrones, Imhotep Charter, jr., 5-9, 170
13. Phil Gore, Abington, sr., 5-8, 160
14. Marcus Sydnor, Haverford High, sr., 5-10, 150
15. Pat McCabe, St. Joseph’s Prep, sr., 6-2, 190
16. Devon Brown, Neshaminy, jr., 5-11, 170
17. Kendall Singleton, Archbishop Wood, jr., 6-0, 165
18. Hannibal Mathis, Haverford School, sr., 6-0, 185
19. Cyrus Barlee, Upper Darby, jr., 5-9, 185
20. Ahjavon Patrick, Cheltenham, sr., 6-0, 175
21. Jaishan Thornton, Haverford High, jr., 5-7, 165
22. Joe Taylor, Germantown Academy, sr., 6-0, 155
23. Chris Rocco, La Salle, sr., 5-10, 160
24. Bobby Romano, Archbishop Ryan, jr., 5-11, 160
25. Cory Grabowski, Plymouth Whitemarsh, sr., 6-0
26. Brandon Feamster, Downingtown East, sr., 6-2, 180
27. Kyle Lowery, Methacton, jr., 5-10, 165
28. Mike Smoluk, Ridley, sr., 5-10, 180
29. Jared Shoemaker, Spring-Ford, jr., 5-11, 155
30. Chris Simmons, Interboro, sr., 6-5, 180
31. Vinne Williams, Coatesville, sr., 5-10, 175
32. Trokon Buesmaill, Neshaminy, jr., 5-6, 155
33. Dan Walls, West Chester Rustin, sr., 6-2, 180
34. Barry Foster, Springfield (Delco), sr., 6-0, 180
35. Tommy Dibrino, Central Bucks South, sr., 5-5, 165
Just an f.y.i for any one coming up for the Dunmore Bristol game.Valley View stadium is in Peckville, not Archabald where the high School is located. They are 5 miles apart.If you map quest the Stadium make sure you use Peckville.
John Henzes Memorial Stadium
Main ST.
Peckville Pa. 18452
@Jack, sorry, was replying to Mike’s original, arrogant post. You just happened to jump in and I assumed you were him. I guess trash talking just runs in the district.
Trust me Jack, D12 is all about winning; just check the playoff results.
@Jack, was only replying to your orginal arrogant post. What, you can only dish it out?
@Phillyboy
Charles Martin Stadium
Northeast H.S
Sat. 1 p.m
to D11 football, since you know football, what could Del Val have done differently to win that game? What does parkland do now since they have no passing game to show a differnt look?
@Jason Everybody in this blog is ignoring Selinsgrove and Interboro in AAA. As for Selinsgrove, of the three teams they lost to(berwick,southern columbia and danville), only Danville is still in the playoffs. The HAC conference is like the BIG10, no respect. But they beat up on each other. Both ACC and Wood could lose this weekend.
2012 PIAA state champions
A – Clairton
AA – Imhotep
AAA – West Allegheny
AAAA – North Allegheny
@D11
If you know so much about football, then parkland should be most worried about La Salle right?
@Jimbo And people wander why nobody can stand the PCL it’s not about winning its the arrogance
LaSalle and Parkland game Saturday at 1pm , Northeast high in Phila . Im thinking its going to be Coatesville vs LaSalle in the finals . The final game will be good for sure , but im going with Coatesville to take it all to Hershey . Lasalle is a very good team this year and i have seen them play , but i also seen Coatesville play and [ SPEED KILLS ] nobody on Lasalle can keep up if they get a open field . But i guess we will see in a couple weeks .. Good luck to all the teams . C-VILLE GRAD ’96’
@Phillyboy LaSalle vs Parkland, 1pm Saturday @ Northeast Philly High School
@Mike, kind of like on those occasions that D11 actually beats a D12 team, they remember and celebrate the date each year.
Liberty in 2008
ACC in 2010
It’s all you ever hear about.
@Mike and @Div1
The Wood/ACC bantor has started already-love it! Although you should both be very careful this week with your opponents. Interboro has huge momentum behind them and Selinsgrove seems to have gotten their mojo back from a few years ago. But,I do think Wood will win rather easily and ACC should win as well.
Look- Two years ago the Wood faithful were chest pumping at how great Wood was and that nobody could hang with them and then ACC beat them 48-28. Last year ACC fans were crowing how Wood was overrated, and then Wood went out and completely dismantled them by putting up 70 points, and probably could have scored more before pulling their starters. To be fair to ACC,last year’s Wood team was one of the best in the area in a long time and finished the year nationally ranked.
You guys can’t live in the past anymore as this year is a whole different year. Look at North Penn who made it all the way to Hershey last year and did not even make playoffs this year. We had high hopes for the Knights this year but it just didn’t pan out.
I do think if Wood/ACC do play this year, Wood will most likely win but not by nearly the margin as last year, probably by 7-14 points.
Whoever represents the EAST is sure to have their hands full with Catherdral or McD. But I do see Wood winning it again behind the strength of their offensive line. Both Wood and ACC are excellent programs that should battle each other for years to come. So rather than put each other’s teams down, just enjoy the great football.
Lasalle and NP have started their own little rivalry and it has been fun to watch.
Anybody know when and where exactly the LaSalle/Parkland game will be played?
@Jack I played for parkland and now play for moravian, trust me I know more about football than you ever will. I was in that program and I know football from studying it for hours and hours. I was at the game against del val.
@Div 1 kind of like all the PCL people predicted a wood blowout in 2010, and that Brendan Nosovitch number were “inflated” how did that turn out? …….601 yards I think. Wood will win this year. It seems that anytime a PCL team is beaten they forget that year somewhow.
Jack.
You are correct. My apologies for the mistake.
Buddy didn’t u predict a win last year also against wood, and most of the acc fans, I forgot the score was 70 to 14, I think they are both great teams, but woods line is just as big this year…. And in h.s. football most of the games are won on the l.o.s.
Another huge difference for LaSalle is the health of Spiteri. He is a year out from ACL and his sprained ankle is better. Since he’s been healthy starting with the West Catholic game, the run defense has been very good. Parkland offense similar to the Prep. Spiteri didn’t play first game on defense and second game La Salle pretty much stopped their running game. I don’t see a Parkland win without a passing attack. Also LaSalle’s O-line finally healthy which has improved the running game and pass protection. Kane throws for 4 scores and LaSalle wins by 10+
Oh how I love this site every1 doubting Selinsgrove just like in 2009 we shall see.
@trad i have to agree with you on Selinsgrove,let look at the numbers the teams they beat were 30-40 on the season. they lost to an A team and a AA team,they only have 5 AAA teams on their schedule.
Feelings around here is they would be a 500 team in the L.F.C and we saw what A.C.C did to Abington.Really don’t think they have seen a running game like A.C.C. I agree i don’t think it will be close
@Jim I would argue it is how good you are not about balance. Jim Morgans teams in the 1990’s rarely threw the ball and won 2 state titles. CB West barely ever threw the ball and was unbelievable throughout Pettines tenure. Some of those great WPIAL teams never threw the ball they just lined up beat you up. Parkland has good mix. Part of the reason they have only thrown for about 100 yards a game is that they have gotten up by so much. In the district 11 championship they threw for a 100 yards in the first half and 2 TD’s but the game was out of reach. Against Easton they threw all over the place I think it would have been over 200 yards 3 TD’s but a bunch were called back for dumb penalties.
Rooting for Parkland, but with 100 yards passing average per game, will that hurt them now? I have to think being more balanced on O is what it takes once a team gets to the top 8. What type of team is LaSalle on O/D?
@PCL FAN
Agree with everything you say about La Salle including your assessment of the previous teams. But I think their running game will be more in the playoffs. Meachum is healthy again with a playoff game under his belt (granted it was Frankford) and Herron out of the wild cat poses more running trouble for Parkland. Steinmetz’ defense is what it is-the best. La Salle by 2 scores.
Trad no offense but you cant go by that Berwick game. That was the first game Selinsgrove decided to start their Sophmore QB and Freshman RB this young team is getting stronger and stronger every week they will give ACC a fight. This Seals team will be around for a while.
@ mikey wasn’t trying to compare defences was actually makeing light of all the points being scored in these playoffs.I will be impressed if Lasalle can shut down Parkland .I expect a high scoring game
Not sure why some people are picking Selinsgrove over ACC. Selinsgrove lost to Berwick and scored 7 points (I believe it was a defensive TD not sure though). Abington Heights dropped 44 on Berwick and ACC handled Abington Heights pretty easily. I see ACC in a rout.
@Colin I did not say anything about Frankford in my post. I realize what happened in the Frankford game. Same as in the West Catholic game QB was out and the game did not mean much. I think you meant @D11Football and I cannot imagine that D11Football is actually a D11Football fan especially a Parkland fan. I have a hunch he is D12 guy getting something going. Believe me I am close to the Parkland program and nobody is thinking about Coatsville, Springford, or Hershey. They are very aware of the challenge in front of the. I do not think it will be a blow out. As I said before I think this is the best rep D12 has seen since the last time D11 beat D12 in 2008 when Liberty won the state title. That does not change the outcome however. I do think this game will be close.
I think that there is no way possible for parkland to STOP the lasalle offense. I do however think they have a good chance of slowing them down and if they get a few stops on 3rd down and rely on their juggernaut offense, they will be able to beat them. should be one hell of a game
No disrespect to D4 AAA or Selinsgrove. They made it this far, like Shamokin last season. They played weak competition to get there like last season. ACC plays very competitive teams in D11. Just looking at who the Seals played and Berwick for one beat them up as did Southern Columbia.
Berwick was a decent team that would have had 3 more losses if it were in the LFC this season. ACC is the better team but like you said, let the kids play and we will see this weekend. Good luck to the Seals.
This LaSalle team is the weakest overall of the teams during the run, just looks at the stats and schedule. 2010 had the best Defense by far, 2009 the best Offense. 2011 was more balanced on offense but lost Coleman in the Eastern Final which was the difference. The 2012 team can throw with the best WRs going. Have not been able to run. On defense no pass defense compared to other LaSalle teams.
That aside, if Parkland cannot play pass defense not sure how anyone thinks they are going to stop LaSalle. Can’t pass like Parkland can’t and you will never be able to pound it down the field, just ask the Prep.
LaSalle by 2 scores at least.
Go on disrespecting D4 AAA and Selinsgrove. Lest you all forget, the Seals beat both ACC and Wood. But as someone wrote previously, all of us couch potatoes and wanna be players aren’t playing the game. Let the boys play!
@D11 If parkland’s weak point is the passing D, then i think it will be a rough day for Parkland. Because lasalle dosent really even rely on the run, they usually mix it in ever so often, but they will pass the hell out of you if you cant defend. Just ask North Penn (17-25 286 yards 3 Tds) or SJ prep(31-46 328 yds with 4 TDs) And honestly Prep DBs are very good this year, in fact sophomore John Reid is getting looks from LSU and Alabama, but Chris Kane torn him apart. I think its going to be a great game, LaSalle has handled whatever D11 has thrown their way in the past. Close game, Lasalle by 3.
good point josh. still would argue that coatesville offense is the scariest right now though. Parkland’s weakest point has been their defense especially the passing D. Lasalle should be able to move the ball on them but against the run they are solid and offensively unstoppable.
Jack,
Lasalle could have scored as much as they wanted to in the FKD game. Dogs were called off early. Big mistake to ever think a score is indicative of what team is better than another in HS football. Should always be more worried about the team you are playing because you may not play the team you expect to if you win anyways. Thats kinda like last years North Penn being more worried About North Allhegeny and then Central Dauphin shows up.
@D11 La Salle put up 37… in the first half. Rested the starters for the remainder of the game
Coatesville just scored 63 points on Neshaminy. Lasalle put up 37 on a weaker Frankford public league team. that is why I am more worried about Coatesville.
@D11Football What are you smoking? The winner of Lasalle/Parkland will most likely go to Hershey to rep the east. I am a D11 and Parkland fan. That is absolutely nuts to be more worried about coatsville than Lasalle. Coatsville could very easily lose. Parkland has a shot and it will be a very close game. I think our friends to the south think this is Easton who does not care about state playoffs or nazareth who was soft. This is easily the best rep D12 has seen since Liberty in 2008. But that does not mean Parkland wins. Lasalle is better than they were in 2010 (I think ACC would have beat them by 3 TD’s that year) but not quite as good as they were last year.
Alot of talk from everyone in PCL and D12 and all over Eastern PA.. However, there are no answers!! Let them play the games. The young men will decide the outcome.. None of you will.. just saying.
@D11 Football
Really, you are more worried about Coatesville than La Salle. I wouldn’t be so sure. La Salle wins by 10
On the D12 question. I have a lot of respect for the PCL and what it has done. My relatives played at both St Joes and OHara. I have always said it was the most competitive league in the state. The issue I raised is with Imhotep and the concept of charter schools going beyond sports. Charter schools are in no way considered Public Schools. They may get public funding however it was voted down that they are to the same rigors as Public Schools. Could it be that our idiot governor’s director of education owns the biggest Charters in the state. Coincidence they are not held accountable the same way Public Schools are. So please don’t tell me Imhotep Charter is not capitalizing on this premise just as many others are. That is my last response to that. It was never an attack on D12 it is an attack on the smoke and mirrors that is presented by most Charters (which would be failing under public school accountability).
About the games coming up. I like Parkland over La Salle (I still think St Joes is the best team in AAAA)
Dunmore over Bristol. Saw the film on them and I don’t think they have the size to match up. All Dunmore has to do is run behind their massive line.
I also think Wyomissing should take care of business.
ACC will beat Selingsgrove. D4 AAA has been weaker these past 2 years.
Wood will have trouble with Interboro. You don’t lose 7 D1 players and be a better team the next season. I still think Wood and ACC rematch will take place. Neither of these teams will beat West A. Or McD.
@mark d Lasalle defense this year is maybe the best I’ve seen it since they won states back in 2009. They are huge up front with Tom Spiteri, Pat Hoffman, Andrew Carlone and Dave Losier clogging things up in the middle and LBs Zaire Franklin and Mike Eife making plays all over the field. Also CBs Dadd Poquie, Jimmy Heron, and Sean Coleman have shut down some pretty prolific offences so far this year.
parkland will not lose to lasalle this year. more worried about a potential coatesville matchup in the state semi’s… that team can score at will.
I’m not sure if ACC will get past Sellinsgrove, but if they do, they will beat Wood, assuming Wood doesn’t lose to Interboro.
The best game this weekend should be, by far, LaSalle/Parkland.
Wonder if that game is televized?
For what it worth talking to some Berwick people they think Abington would have beat Selinsgrove by 14.A.C.C a much stronger team
Does any body play defence Lasalle 88 Parkland 85 lol
Buddy,
I think an ACC vs Wood matchup would be great theatre for sure. I was at BASD 2 years ago and Northeast last year for the rematch. I must admit I have seen Wood 2x this year and ACC only onc, but Wood just looks so much bigger and more athletic than ACC. I think Wood lost 5-6 D1 players to graduation but they look like they havent missed a beat. ACC RB is a stud and could cause Wood problems, but I just cant see ACC defense being able to stop that huge offensive line. What are your thoughts?
Of course, they both have tough games this week and must win first. Selinsgrove is no slouch. I hope Interboro wins, but i think it will take a miracle.
Coatesville by 10 over Springfield
Lasalle by 3 over Parkland
Wood over Interboro by 24
ACC over Selinsgrove by 7
Imhotep over Pen Arg by 35
Wyomissing over Danville by 10
I realize Wood lost a lot of talent from last year, but are they down so far as to lose to a mediocre ACC team? ACC’s O-line is decent and McDermott is a beast at RB, but they are not as good as last year and light years away from the talent they had two years ago.
That is correct
@ Buddy
Did I read that correctly? If ACC & Wood meet, you are predicting an ACC win?
@ Mika:
Check again, I got ACC to win.
We disagree on Wood though. I think it’s wishful thinking on my part regarding Wood.
If Wood does win this week, they will definetly lose the following week.
@ Dave
I totally agree with PCL Fan.
@ Buddy…I like your picks. Except, I like ACC to win and Wood to win.
COATESVILLE over SPRINGFORD
this will be a high scoring game, something like 45 to 28
LASALLE over PARKLAND
this will be close……. real close
CENTRAL CATHOLIC over SELLINGSGROVE
another tough one, alot of tradition at sellingsgrove
INTERBORO over WOOD
upset special. Wood only has running game, stop that & you’re in
INMOTEP over PEN ARGYL
Imnotep recruiting way too good
WYOMISSING over DANVILLE
if they don’t look past this week
@PCLfan. Your right and I am sorry I didn’t stop it sooner.
Dave this thread has been about D12 bashing all year. The first bash was on 9/1. Now you take a stand? Funny!!
Thank you Jive & C.T coach watched the game on utube they seem small.Really doesn’t seem like they match well with Dunmore. But like you said if you got this far you must have something
tsaf77, good luck to Parkland! Looked like a good game with many twists and turns. Quite a bit of talent on that field Saturday.
Enough with the personal attacks on players and teams. If you want to talk football, talk football.
What do you think of the match-ups this weekend?
For your info Comm Tech is a 1A school but we play a AA schedule ask imhotep who gave them there tuffst game this year injuries have killed us this year but we be back if they dont kill program
To see comm tecch against bristol youtube comm tech football
Bristol runs a 5-2 there small can be past on #5 CB is week go at him as much as you can that was my mistakee the second time we played them and watch out for chop blocks lost my starting DE and left guard in firstst game to them playing dirty there RB is a tuff S.O.B there best running play is a counter trap If you give QB time he can hit open guys and if you get them in3rd down jamm TE #10 Comm Tech should still be playing ……refs did not help but that was expected
@Mark d, Bristol played Comm Tech twice this year, losing by 18 the first time and winning by 3 the second. Comm Tech has a real nice back, #9, who ran all over them in game 1 and got pretty much shut down in game 2. Comm Tech is a 5-6 team that is really not very good. Dunmore was up 21 on an SCA team that I have seen a few times this year. SCA was looking like the team to face Clairton again until Dunmore whacked them. I really don’t think Bristol vs Dunmore will be much of a game. Guessing Dunmore by 4 touchdowns or more. However, Bristol got this far so you never know what they may bring to the table.
Who wants THE FACTS? I had to do a little more digging into Imhotep to see if Mr. Facts was accurate. Here is what I have found. About their 100% graduation rate? That was for 2009 and 2010 classes, impressive rate over 2 years! The only wrinkle is that the school is under investigation from the state of PA department of education, for test tampering. Seems you have to renew your charter every few years and underperforming schools get revoked. In 2007 students proficiency rate in reading 39%, science 4%, writing 79%, and math 11%. Those scores would have led to the charter being revoked. 2011 reading 79%, science 6%, writing 84%, math 73%. What a turnaround! State officials issued the tests in 2012, reading 49%, science 5%, writing 67%, math 28%. UH OH! If anybody would like to know about the 575 kids on the waiting list and lottery that goes with it, just let me know. I think the lottery takes place after they select their basketball and football teams. Just for the record I couldn’t care less about them recruiting, just don’t deny it and tell me about THE FACTS.
Parkland is the hot team in AAAA right now. They saw a D.V. team that has been an offensive juggernaut that would rival any top offense in the state with a D1 QB. La Salle has been playing good football however they need to be able to stop the versatile Parkland offense first.
jiveturkey, love the facts, kind of like the situation. hype and smoke on this school. a matter of time before top layer of nonsense falls off
Facts: I am not saying the programs of La Salle, St Joes etc are not great programs. They are great teams with a lot of talent which they somewhat replace on an annual basis. As for Imhotep, I have heard of them in basketball, never as a football power. All of a sudden they are a team with enough talent to have kids play 1 way? And that many kids that are D1 from an AA school? Raises questions.
I am sure the team is very talented but don’t compare the tradition at Imhotep to the likes of private powers such as St. Joes or O’Hara.
In fact, don’t even compare them to the traditions of Berwick and Dunmore.
What can any one out their tell me about Bristol.Can they play with Dunmore?
Great game Del Valley and Parkland congrads to Parkland good luck.
Bottom line over the years West Catholic ,Wood , LaSalle ,SJP…recruited inside the city and outside the city and won championships, nobody said anything going farther back than this decade. Tradition has a starting point and to say catholic or private schools programs are better because of tradition is unfair and ignorant! what new school has a tradition there just starting.The only reason Coach Alby and #33 left was the school was closing Coach built that school (west catholic) up for a long time and stayed in the back round ,its time he gets the credit, he’s Due and so is the public league! For years private and catholic schools took the cream of the crop from the inner city and then talk about how bad the public league was how could you compete when the best talent was being sucked out of the pub there not better coach’s they have all the high spades how can the loose…. in team sports if you have the bigger faster kids your going to win more time’s than not don’t care what kind of system you run, got to have the horses
@JiveTurkey
What 15 kids are you referring to? Do you realize how big of news it would be if one PIAA team received 15 new transfers in one year? You’re just throwing things out there hoping it sticks and demonizing a good program that happens to be a Philly public school.
So in this case, maybe the 15 kids you’re referring to did play JV. Their JV team lost one game last year and was undefeated this year. So next year you may see 15 new names on the roster, doesn’t mean they’re transfers, they just were not on varsity.
This is a great program who is doing great things with academics and sports. No need to knock them, we should support it as well as support every school program who keeps these kids active, in the books and off the streets.
@Buddy
I know the game was against Frankford, but in the City championship game Jordan Meachum had 7 carries for 146 yards, and with the big Offensive line they can run on anyone. Also WR/RB/QB Jimmy Heron has been playing well out of the wildcat lately.
@ Buddy and @David
What about the wildcat?
David and Buddy stopping Coleman is easier said than done.
@ thefacts, Are you are telling me that just about 15 kids on that roster played JV last year or didn’t play at all, as sophs and juniors, because they couldn’t make an 8-4 team. Now they are in the running for the state championship. Hands down the best coaching staff in the country. I think you should contact the movie studios and trade mark the rights to the story.
@ Buddy. I agree 100%
@ parkland:
Stop Sean Coleman & their ( LaSalle) short passing game and you can win.
Their QB gets rid of the ball quickly and rolls out very well. Also, they have big lines.
Summary: Interupt the Kane/Coleman connection.
As for as Chatmon and williams, several D12 and D1 programs received quality transfers this year. That happens everywhere. Imhotep will be good far after those two kids graduate. We can judge their program with a honest eye then.
PCL Fan, you are absolutely right about LASalle. I stand corrected. I was referring to the no boundary and impressiveness comment taaf77 was claiming. Just telling him some catholic programs are allowed to enroll kids from all over but that’s not what makes them quality programs. It’s their tradition and their character of their kids. St Joes, Wood and Lasalle are excellent programs, not just good kids and staff but excellent programs and that’s very impressive.
Also, I said no disrespect to Imhotep but I was referring to that school only. Not ANY school.
O L coach. I gave names associated with a coach. You gave me a short rant on credibility. Where is yours?
On the notion of your point on AA class. With all due respect, NO KIDDING. I wasn’t talking about their enrollment. I was talking about BOUNDARIES.
@tsaf77
Imhotep is AA based on their enrollment; it has nothing to do with where the enrollment comes from.
Nobody can match the top 5 coaching staffs in D2? Please, be real if you want any credibility!
Can someone please rank COATESVILLE where they belong. I think they deserve it by now. thanks
Facts get your facts straight. The issue with the Imhotep roster is Chatmon and Williams. The top players on their side of the ball and both transferd in.
On LaSalle not sure what you mean by every county. Their players come mainly from two.
@JiveTurkey
Ted Silary 2011 Imhotep roster.. http://www.tedsilary.com/imhotepFB11.htm
Ted Silary 2012 Imhotep roster.. http://www.tedsilary.com/imhotepFB12.htm
Same kids.. To be sure, here is the Ted Silary 2010 Imhotep roster.. http://www.tedsilary.com/imhotepFB10.htm
This is without considering some players who play JV and don’t make the Varsity roster, so if you see different names, then that kid may have played JV the year before or didn’t play high school ball. But there are no names on there that were big time players from other schools but #33 and #24 and we know their story. The facts..
@tsaf77
You stated: “Not taking anything away from the kids however when your area exceeds normal AA population boundaries it isn’t as impressive.”
You may have a point but I ask you, would you include the Catholic schools in this statement who has no boundary limits such as St Joes who has Jersey kids playing for them, Wood who has a wide variety of kids, and LaSalle who has kids from every county?
@Jim
Why would you have a problem with Imhotep’s Mission Statement? Are you prejudice because its an Afro Centric school that centers around African culture? There are nationality charter schools all around Philly that centers around Chinese culture to European culture of teaching. I have no problem with this especially how some inner public schools are failing our children throughout the country. Please explain why you would have a problem with cultural centered schools then tell me are you a Notre Dame fan like myself who is Afro American but loves the Fighting Irish. Also Jim, here is a Philadelphia Inquire article reporting the success of Imhotep like 100% graduation rate, 95% of their students being accepted and going to college .. http://www.examiner.com/article/superintendent-ackerman-to-make-first-visit-to-imhotep-institute-charter-high-school …. Just want to make sure you have facts and not rumors. Lastly, can you provide names of who Imhotep recruited? They have two players who played a significant amount of high school last year for another program. #33 who transferred because his school was closing and #24 who got expelled from his school, that’s it!
@JiveTurkey
According to Maxpreps, which is the official PIAA stat and roster website, here is Imotep’s 2011 roster.. http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/imhotep-charter-panthers-%28philadelphia,pa%29/football-fall-11/roster.htm, and here is their 2012 roster.. http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/imhotep-charter-panthers-%28philadelphia,pa%29/football/roster.htm … Look’s like the same kids to me.
Bottom-line is this, maybe the new Head coach coming from a championship caliber team that competed in a quality competitive Catholic League, knew what it takes to build a winning program. This team wins because they are very discipline. A fresh breathe of air from SOME of the regular PL teams. They hustle everywhere on the field and back and forth to the locker-room in straight line numerical order. You don’t see that in public league programs. Discipline builds character, character builds believers and a believing child can win at anything they put their minds too. Their staff is big in numbers, looks young and has several D1 and NFL players.
Here are the facts gentlemen and I know its hard to comprehend.. But yes, a public league school will be representing D12 2A in the State tournament and we have to accept the changing of arms. The last electoral race proved that. Stay warm!
Coatesville is downright nasty. When the momentum started to shift for Neshaminy last night and they pulled within a touchdown, C’ville clamped down and went into domination-mode unlike I’ve ever personally witnessed at a HSFB game.
And what a perfect matchup for the D1 final – a Spring-Ford team that Coatesville destroyed last year 60-28 on the road in the first round of the D1 playoffs.
I’ve had Coatesville as my pick for D1 champ since the brackets came out… They have proven they are a championship-caliber team, and all signs point to them being a prohibitive favorite… but I think they are in store for their toughest test of the year.
La Salle vs Parkland thought?
Parkland 49-41 over DV. It appeared to be a shootout in the first half. Then Parkland secured a 49-27 lead and it appeared they had this game. DV throws up a jump ball scores. Then they recover a nifty onside kick and score again. Hold Parkland and get the ball back, fumbled it away, hold Parkland again. They get to the Parkland 41 yard line. Throw a hail mary and almost caught.
I wasn’t rooting for either team but wow what a contest. I am glad I went to see this contest.
You need more then one key player ( Mike Class) to win at this level.
Coatesville over Neshaminy 63 – 28 what a crazy game and the stands looked full from C-Ville side. Good luck to plays that fast team that can do anything on the field .. C-Ville grad ’96’
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No problem. Just remember, when you come on here and post, you are reperesenting your school. Just like when you run out on to the field.
Mike, thats what I thought about parkland. Two great teams, I dont hear about any off field issues so seems good group of student athletes going at it and should be a great game. Good luck to both!
???? SOme basic research found this:
Imhotep Institute Charter High School, located in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, is a charter high school. Based on its state test results, it has received a GreatSchools Rating of 2 out of 10.
Help us understand is this charter school for helping kids academically(everyone here wants that for all our children) or open for honest and open discourse for being challeneged on the imbalance with it’s athletic success. Again it’s not about the kids, it’s the adults in the room who muddy the waters for their gain
LOTS OF LUCK WYOMING AREA WARRIORS
@Jim don’t listen Jeff Verdaski he thinks Parkland plays a 3 man front. They are a 4-3 and he thinks I don’t know. My son starts on the defense, so having seen them for 12 weeks I am positive they are 4-3 and play 3 man front on passing downs.
@ jim
Have you ever been in North Philadelphia you try in study and see if you can focus with gun shots and the police alarms going off all the time. Also, with the violence and drugs that goes around in my neighborhood you find out and see how easy it is to study. That’s why i do study hall in the morning and i can get help by teachers if i don’t understand something.
@Jim B
My bad about the mistakes i was just typing to type. Never knew it had to be perfect even tho my GPA is 3.4 but ill make sure its correct next time. Thanks for the notice.
hate to see the jabs at schools, but 80% of us want to see fairness, good sportsmanship and no BS. In the end the kids who excel in the classroom and play good clean hard football will be the winners.
@Phillyboy You threw in the city limits part to take out Lasalle, slick move.
Go Tep, baby! If they take home the state title, will be the first football state championship for a public Philadelphia school and only the second team overall within the city limits of Philadelhia, West Catholic being the other.
????, why can’t you just go home at night like the rest of america and study. How does imhotep change that? Same neighborhead, same home.School is a front
Jeff Verdski, really? Look at your post #49. Edge to Del Val and their D will get it done.
People say we didn’t play anybody people thought west catholic was gone kick us out but what happen we proved everybody wrong we just hungry this year and when we beat pub teams they all tell us represent the pub win it for the pub so when we hear things like yall are carrying the city on your backs and your league and when people drive by your practice and say LETS GO TEP or one dude came by and said who is that team scrimmaging out there we answered thats a practice thats how hard we go when we at practice people dont know how bad we want it this year.
@ Mikey
Your right i play for imhotep and it keeps me out of the streets at night it also it gave me a chance to get a real bind with my teammates like this is why we are so good this year cause of how people say public school this scouting that like football is football no matter how you put like lasalle just throw a scholarship at my cousin and he lives all the way in south philly and plays for the sharks 135 so why cant imhotep scout from neighborhood teams like wild cats and raiders. But imhotep doesn’t start into 9:40 every day but football has to be there 8:15 for study hall or film session like we really going hard out here for this just so we can show people how the public
league can do so for the people thats gone hate let them hate and for the people thats gone stick besides us thanks but no matter what we gone ball till we fall and you think this year is bad you havn’t seen nothing.
#PANTHERNATION
@Jeff you may be right, but the nice thing about H.S. football is if evething works right we will see in 2 weeks!
In observing the overall issue with Imhotep. Sounds a little like investigation needs to be in place with the PIAA. Team is unheard of until this season and breaks out to be the best team in AA in Eastern PA.
Not taking anything away from the kids however when your area exceeds normal AA population boundaries it isn’t as impressive.
What is impressive is a team such as Dunmore, who is a single borough district (one of the last 2 left in the state) and wins on a consistent basis against good competition. I am not from Dunmore, but that is impressive. When Dunmore lost games, it was never because of coaching, it was always a talent issue. Imagine if the most talented kids from Scranton went to Dunmore and they remained single A. We would call them Clairton.
I don’t add Southern C. to the impressiveness because they have always had a great scheme going with Columbia Mon. Vo-Tech to keep them single A and reap the talent pool.
Hard to see Imhotep defeat the perennial power of the Quips anyways. They have been around the block many times and have the history to show it.
Don’t mean to burst bubbles but this is my opinion and a little food for thought on how winning HS Football games is more important than playing within your district.
@ O L Coach of course NA would be up by a ton vs a small public school. That is the point I was making to the poster who said below that that Imhoptep would beat any big school in the state. Don’t you have film to watch? Wait your most likely not in the playoffs becaus you spend so much time acting like a jerk on a message board
Parkland should beat DV tomorrow afternoon. Del Val has a nice team but the Parkland D has improved. They will get enough stops and build a lead that DV won’t overcome. DV’s defense by the second half will start to get gashed by the Parkland ground game. DV will throw the ball with success but won’t be enough. Parkland 41 DV 24.
When it comes to Philly WC and Imhotep type schools…AA & AAA schools…eventually smaller schools will get sick of them recruiting to the highest degree and winning and will want them out of the PIAA…mandatory AAAA playoffs they should play in. Only a handful of schools have the capabilities of having the athletes to compete. (Wyomissing is a nice team but they will get murdered by IMHOTEP…you have no idea Mark D.)
Bravo to Imhotep for having a state championship caliber team. If they attract some better players, so be it. The Public League has been the doormat of the PIAA, so to see people complain about their success is ridiculous. If they make it to Hershey I’ll have to check out the Saturday AA/AAAA doubleheader with a trip to Shady Maple to boot.
OL coach, have you looked at their site? Surf the entire site, mission statement… and if I have to explain why I have a problem with it, then I can’t help you. Go to public school, try to be a good student, paly and hopefully excel in sports and make the entire community proud. We struggle finanically, but our kids go to public school and work hard in the classroom and on the field.No excuses or blaming other people for our lot in life.
One word for all the people handing Imhotep the eastern title Wyomissing
CT coach honestly has it completely right, I live in Philly but do not have to worry about some of the struggles that the inner city kids have to deal with. It’s really life or death in some parts of Philly and if a kid can play hoops or football there is nothing wrong with him wanting to go to Imhotep to play if it keeps him out of trouble, gets him a college education, and maybe along the way win a State Title or 2.
Imhotep is the best thing that has happened to Philadelphia public league sports no matter if there recruiting or not many of the other large 3A and 4A teams do it to its justified bacuse there Catholic or suburban teams and not a pubic school from inner city Philadelphia
my thanks giving was great thanks for asking
Imhotep has two or three Basketball state chips and is about to get one in football thats attractive to a kid that want to play for a good team and go on to play college at what ever sport they play,so yes they go there for sports whats wrong with that sports kept me out of trouble as a kid to play sports you have to keep your grades up and be a good citizen so if sports is the carrot keep dangling it you learn life lessons through sports!
@ Jack, tedsilary.com Every roster from the last 10 years Catholic, inter-ac and Pub
Look what program that is constantly winning year after year is not recruiting Wood, laSalle, West Cathlic, Washington,SJP to name a few I live in southwest philly and my neighbor is lasalle,s starting corner back and his little brother plays RB for Haverford school to great athletes…in the inner city with all the choices a kid has you have to fined a way to attract kids to your school not like little townships where there only one high school to go to I practice on the same field with a middle school team and i havent got one of those kids in two years I could complain but why just have to get up and get the kids… all schools recruite some just have more to sale a kid on
@jim, so share what your study of Imhotep’s website revealed? We’re all curious, really.
@Jack, one would expect N. Allegheny to be up big on a AA public school schedule. Is that supposed to be news?
How has everyone’s Thanksgiving going so far?
@jiveturkey9 can we get a little edvidence refering the roster ???
Imhotep hides behind being a so called charter school. if you dont think kids go there to play sports, you are being disingenuous. Nothing against the kids, its always the adults in the room
@ Northwest, Did you really call Boys Latin a tough AAA team? BL has been around for only 3 years and has lost their last 4 games by a combined 108 points. I was pretty surprised by the Imhotep WC score, and am not too proud to admit I didn’t see that trashing coming. All of the folks on here talking about Imhotep recruiting, the proof is in the pudding. Cross referance last years roster to this years. Whole lot of new names, not sophs or frosh, juniors and seniors. They have only 1 two way player because they have brought in a ton of new talent. It is what it is. PIAA did nothing about Wood doing this, and they will certainly not look into Imhotep. Sit back, watch the games, and see how it plays out. Alliquippa is a machine, let’s see what happens in a few weeks..
Imhotep is a great team cant take that away ftom them there schedule is what it is there a small AA school in public leaugue sjp, wood and lesall are big schools with way more money and resourses so it would be unfair to compare to big AAAA Programs I coached against schukill haven in 08 at that time best hs team i evere seen imhotep is in that ballpark and what makes great teams is being able to rest starters imhotep guys never are gased because only one guy goes 2 ways thats extreemly rear in the pub dont think i have ever seen that in the pub….on that note let me go call some 8th graders everybody enjoy the holidays
jack, thank you! nothing against imhotep but it the extreme example of schools who recruit. look at the website
please stop with Imhotep. Totally stacked recruitment school.
Please enough with the Imhotep stats, if Lasalle or Prep played that same schedule they would’ve blown all those teams out. Stick with the lower level teams. Now I must say I do have Imhotep in the AA state finals.
NW Philly,
Just want to correct you on two things:
1.) Imhotep has scored the most points in Eastern PA, not the entire state. Aliquippa leads the state with 624 points scored in 12 games. Imhotep, through 13 games, has scored 584.
After this weekend, Imhotep will probably have the 5th-highest total for team points scored through this week of games. Port Allegany, of District 9, has 582 points in 11 games and plays Saturday. Clairton has scored 565 points in 12 games and averages 47.1 ppg. Cathedral Prep, of District 10, has 564 points in 11 games and faces a team it already humbled, 47-0, for the District 10 AAA championship.
2.) Imhotep has allowed 65 points in 13 games – the least in Eastern PA, but not the entire state. Aliquippa has allowed the fewest points, with 42, in 12 games and plays again Friday.
Imhotep is having a great season and deserves recognition for it. But their totals for points scored and points allowed are only #1 in Eastern PA, not for the entire state. Sorry if I burst your bubble.
@NWPhilly LaSalle had already clinched a spot in the AAAA PCL playoffs, so the game against West (which was the last regular season game) didn’t really matter. And Star Qb Chris Kane didn’t plaay because of injury
That is a real doozy of schedule you got down there…North Allegany would be up 75-0 at half. Wait until the quips get a hold of the Philly Pub All-Stars. DO they even go to class at Imhotep? Did David Sills dad start this school too? You philly people are unreal!
Strath Haven
@ Communications Technology
Roxborough* (AA)
@ Springside Chestnut Hill Academy
School of the Future*
10/06 Delaware Valley Charter*
10/12 @ University City*
10/19 @ Prep Charter*
10/27 @ Communications Technology
11/03 Delaware Valley Charter
11/10 Prep Charter (AA)
11/16 West Catholic (AA)
11/21 @ Boys Latin of Philadelphia Charter
I said it last week when I saw it first hand, Imhotep is a AA school who will defeat any team I. The state. They have given up the least points in Pa and scored the most as well. Last week they dominated West Catholic from the opening kickoff on to a 40-8. West catholic gave Lasalle the fight of their life got a narrow victory. The backs on that Imhotep team are amazing along with their stud o-line. Not a player plays both sides of the ball either. I walk out of their game tonight when they reached 55 points against a tough AAA team. If the did not have a running clock they could easily score 70 a game. For those in other parts of the State, do what you can to see the show they put on and remember some names. We will see many we will see making strides on the college level.
Josh – Good point. I thought SJP was going to get ’em 2x’s. I was at both and great games they were.
Kmac – great insight but want to add that SV runs pretty much the same O as LaSalle with a QB getting D1 looks and a running back who is a stud..NA shut them down twice.
Phillyboy – This year champ… not last year.
@soup
I agree with you when it comes to the West, but I have to disagree about la salles run game. We all thought prep was one of the best teams in the state and i have to say LA salle pretty much dominated that game without much running success, I dont think a team on this side of Pa has a defensive line to get to La Salle’s qb or the secondary to cover their receivers, but thats why they play the games
@ ? and Soup
North Allegheny does indeed look scary this year. Art Walker Jr’s club is averaging 40.5 points per game while yielding 6.8 ppg. They are 12-0 against all 4A teams that included Gateway, Pittsburgh CC, and Seneca Valley whose only 2 losses were to NA. An 8-game stretch of regular season their D yielded scores of 7 – 3 – 3 – 0 – 3 – 0 – 7 – 0. No one has over two TDs on them; the last playoff game with SV getting 17 the high score.
NA is going to roll over any team they play. One of the best teams the state has seen in years.
What are you doing for Thanksgiving?
I will be covering the Easton vs. P-Burg game in the morning. Than come home eat Turkey and watch football.
markd, DV has a good D, at times their scheme hurts them, but the players are pretty good. Parkland is solid all the way around. Looking for a close one that lives up to the reward of sub regional champion
@Jim and mark d I know how good the QB is, and I think if it becomes a shoot out the Parkland Defense will get 1 or 2 more stops than Del Val Defense. I did not think this until I read up on Parkland. They have a RB with over 1000, QB with over 1200 passing and 1000 rushing, they have another RB with over 800, and another with 500 rushing. from looking at the scores it does not seem anyone has stopped the offense and there defense has settled in since the last time they played DV. Parkland beat that Whitehall team 52-20 or something. I am hoping District 2 can end the losing to District 11 this saturday in all 3 classes!! Go Warriors!
I feel that it been Del Valley offence that carried them all year,if the game come down to the offence to win it i think it in Del Val favor.To be honest dont know much about Parkland
Yeah. There’s no way the D12 champ should get a bye during the playoffs. That’s completely unfair and ridiculous. If their bracket has one less round then they should start their playoffs one week later to synchronize with the other brackets.
@ Soup
Ouch. That’s good stuff, man. The top 5 out west would have a shot to beat the east’s best. NA came up small last year against Central Dauphin. We’ll see what’s up, yo.
Mike, I think a shootout goes to Del Val. That kid has proved he can run and or throw and make great decisions under pressure. He marched them down the field in game 1 and made the call to go for 2 against Whitehall. I agree with your second point
@Mark d I absolutely think that Del Val/Parkland is going to be a great game. But if it gets to a shootout Parkland wins. If it is a score in the 20’s DV wins.
IF NA gets through the West they will roll over anyone out here in the East. The West’s top 5 would have a shot at the East’s best this year…. The west is stacked top to bottom this year. Everyone here has to agree that the East is on a down year,no? I do not think LaSalle will make the finals unless they can run the ball.
CLARK31C says:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Neshaminy over Coatesville . It will be a good game friday night. Hopefully they have a good crowd on both sides. NESHAMINY 28 COATESVILLE 26
Really? lets hope it is a good crowd, Coatesville will win this game and end up playing pennridge.
For what it worth
Del Valley 38 Parkland 35(it going to be a great game)
A.C.C 28 Abington 14(lack of a running game hurts Abington)
PenArgyl 28 Wyoming Area 17(not enough defence for Wyoming Area)
S Columbia 21 Dunmore 20(should be a phycial war 2 huge lines)
@Josh
Yes, North Allegheny looks to be extremely powerful from the West side. In fact, while as you know, the West has never swept all four classes at the state finals, I think they have perhaps their best shot this season in quite a while.
Neshaminy over Coatesville . It will be a good game friday night. Hopefully they have a good crowd on both sides. NESHAMINY 28 COATESVILLE 26.
@Kmac
I have to agree i dont think anyone on this side of PA can hang with La Salle, however i am excited to see a North Allegheny vs La Salle state final
@Joe,
Parkland is opening the game this week against DV in a 3-5-3 scheme. I suppose you aren’t close to the program (it’s ok). I think that’ll be a very tight and highly contested game.
I think the reason D-11/2/4 subregional winner has struggled to advance because the Catholic league gets a bye week before they meet. When D-11 played the pub league and D1 had to play themselves it gave the D-11 team such a huge advantage. The Pub League game wasn’t nearly as physical and it allowed an almost week of rest. Now D-12 gets a bye week to rest and get healthy and they just seem to have a little too much when it comes to the 4th quarter as the last 3 years proved.
Picks for this weekend:
Coatesville
Pennridge
Parkland
WC Henderson
ACC
Pen Argyl
Williams Valley
Southern Columbia
And a nice relaxing bye week for Wood & LaSalle! Sorry, I had to.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Joe,
SCA/Dunmore looks to be an all-out war on paper. Two physical, fundamental and well-coached football teams. Dunmore has been incredibly tough since getting its top two rushers back and Southern Columbia enjoys the benefit of six backs with 300+ rushing yards. I have a feeling it’s going to come down to quarterback play and which team’s field general blinks first versus the one who plays the most efficient game. Brandon Kujawski has a 4:1 TD-to-INT ratio (8 TDs, 2 INT; and Southern’s Taylor Young had a year to grow and learn the Delaware Wing-T under a steady, reliable senior Brad Fegley. Young has a 4.3:1 TD-to-INT ratio (13 TD, 3 INT) and has 1,030 yards through the air. Also, Southern’s defense has bent at times this season, as has Dunmore’s, so it will be critical to see how either team responds on that side of the ball if the other can get any sustained drives going. I’d think there will be a good deal of 3-and-outs and not a lot of scoring. I pick Southern, but narrowly. If Dunmore would win, it really shouldn’t be looked at as an upset.
Thanks
How about your thoughts on the Southern Columbia\Dunmore game?
Joe Dobbs,
They are in the “News” section under the title “2012 Statewide Football Rankings – Week 12.” Normally, they’re in the top slot on the main page until Wednesday, but we had some posts and stuff that took up the bulk of the main page this week. Check under the “News” section and leave any feedback you have – good, bad, indifferent, etc. It’s Thanksgiving on Thursday, so hopefully I don’t have to eat any crow before I enjoy a heaping pile of turkey.
Josh Funk,
Where are your updated rankings?
What real coach would come on here and post comments anyway
OL coach at it again. Just can’t help submitting smart-ass replies!
I’ve often wondered why D1 final is at a neutral site. It’s still the district 1 playoffs!
Why have seedings if they ignore them for the final!
Other districts don’t do this. I was at the D11 AA final Sat., & it was at Catty, the top seed.
Neither does D2,11 & 4.
If you are one of the top seeds in D1, and make it to the final, then you earned the right for a home game. I think that’s something that should be addressed.
Sorry for the miss info the Abington ACC game I being told now is at Valley View Saturday afternoon
O L Coach could use a little help went to the PIAA site but could find nothing on rules for playoff sites, always thought that they were netural fields for state games ?
@Josh
A loaded question, and most difficult question this season. The undefeated teams are in the smaller school classes; and possibly one of them could be “best” in the east, but it is hard to pick one over AAA or AAAA schools in principle. There are no undefeated teams in the Eastern AAA or AAAA brackets to say, “nobody has beaten them.” In fact, triple-A is full of 2 and 3-loss teams and even a 5-loss team! Perhaps the best team in the east is a team that might win a western championship; say Bishop McDevitt? If I were forced to make a guess, and that is all it is; I would have to go with LaSalle right now.
@RON quit being a sore loser. Berwick couldn’t stop an Abington Heights offense who could not muster a TD in its previous 2 games against Valley View and Scranton (2 other lackawanna league teams btw). And no one ever said AH was suppose to make it to the eastern finals against wood, let alone beat them. In fact, Dallas, Valley View, and Berwick were the front runners to win districts at the beggining of the year. So I don’t know why you are trying to talk about abington beating wood in the eastern finals. AH will prolly lose to ACC.
@ Bert,Abington Heights played a spread offense against berwick, first time all season, i never thought AH would resort to a passing game against berwick. guess ah figured they had better chance of winning by passing the ball rather than running the ball. AH defense gave up 35 points against a wvc team, never expected that did you bert? AH has a slow defense, will not win eastern final against wood.
I got to ask the question. Who does everyone think the best team in eastern Pa is right now?
o l coach i’d rather not get into details..sorry just venting a little today after reading a bunch of BS on the blogs.
I suggest you all take 10 minutes and learn what the PIAA regs are regarding home and neutral fields; district finals and intersectional games. The schools have nothing to do wih it.
@fan22, are you just bashing all coaches? Name nanmes! Now that you mention it, I didn’t know what the hell your post was whining about to begin with!
Just a shout out to all who had Berwick in Eastern final the day George Curry was hired. As much as I respect what he’s done in his career, I couldn’t get past the soft schedule he played this year. How about that stodgy Scranton area offense Abington Heights played? The times they are a changin.
Cumberland Valley’s Tim Rimpfel to retire. Had 307 wins at CV and Bishop McDevitt (HGB). In 24 years at CV had nine district 3 titles and three second place finishes in district 3. Had two District 3 titles with BM. Also a head coach and assitant coach for the BIG 33.
Refs make calls and miss calls. In these playoffs Ive seen such sore losers. When coaches
shake your hand and say “better thank the refs” at the end of the game it says somthing about the class your program has and reflects on your community.They forget about the great game they have just seen and take all the credit away from the kids playing.
Thanks Jim your right seem to be a few in all classes.
markd go to team info up top and you can drill down to AAAA playoff brackets. There are a couple games on a home field.
@ staff:
By-the-way, LaSalle beat Frankford ( can update brackets)
I thought it was a state playoff also, and had to be a at a neutral site.Small stadium for a state playoff game.
Dv parkland is sub regional championshipss And 1st round of states
@Mark d I think because Del Val/Parkland is still considered the sub-regional playoffs is why it is at DV. Only state playoff games are neutral. I could be wrong but I believe that is why
Was looking at the brackets on this site the Scranton paper had Abington & A.C.C at Scranton Memorial Stadium Sat at one, not at Valley View.Del Valley is playing at home?
@Jeff well I guess you do not pay too much attention to Parkland because they are 4-3 and the they go to a 3 man front in nickel situations.
Hats off to Del Valley what a night their o line had man handled Scranton.Good luck against Parkland
@Ron know you didn’t like the outcome but that must have been a fun game to watch
@phillyboy,
I am just a fan of HS football. I’ve gotten to see Parkland play and saw their game against PV this past weekend (37-0 Parkland win).
Parkland tends to play very soft pass defense out of their 3-5-3 scheme. They don’t get much pressure unless they bring 5-6 players at the QB. Tend to sit back in soft zone and that is where the trouble lies. DV passed the heck out of Parkland in week 1 and that is their best attack to win the second meeting. #7 Elder from Parkland is small but OMG he’s an athlete. i’ve seen 3-4 games where he jumps a route and picks it off for 6.
I wouldn’t pick against Parkland in this contest but DV definitely will be a stern test. If they get past them then the LaSalle game will be a dozy!
Pretty sad when Pennsbury players & students make death threats to some of the Pennridge players. Must come from the parents and coaches. I hope the Authorities prosecute to the full extent of the law. I would ban Pennsbury from any playoff games for the next couple of years. I wish Pennridge the best, they’ve been fun to watch.
think you are right james- team 3 years ago way over rated- not a very good foundation of interior lineman- multiple big ego skill kids and QB never imroved- team last year not very good, however, defense this year absolutely district worthy- when you advance to 2nd round of play-offs and commit 5-6 turnovers, guees you are not good enough- unfortunately distict one will not get by LaSalle anyhow…….
I know, I know. Was like ‘Oh, snap’, after last comment. Del. Valley is still alive and well. They’ll have something to say against Parkland. Totally respect how they put together a formidable team that the community can rally around. But it’s about to strike midnight on this cinderella season.
@ James
You could see that from a mile away. I had them exiting stage left in the first round but they managed to stay alive one more week. The thing about Ridley, they don’t play any tough teams at the beginning of the year. They just play their Central League opponents, some mediocre, some slightly above average. Then when the playoffs kick in, it’s a little bit of a reality check. That said, the team they had a few years back in ’07 was really good. They lost to Parkland in the eastern final at J. Birney Crum. That was a hard nosed team with great defense and smash mouth rushing by a kid by the name of Hodges.
Speaking of Parkland, can’t wait for Parkland/LaSalle game. Other than the Prep games this should be LaSalle’s toughest opponent yet. Apparently, Parkland has been rolling lately. I haven’t been to many games this year in person, but I tell you it’s time to get out of the house for this one.
Imhotep Charter looks to be a mover and shaker in AA championship bracket. Should be no surprise that teams must get by a PL team to move on. Lancaster Catholic had to meet West Catholic 3 times in four years, we had very challenging games each time, with success twice, each which gave LC the opportunity at the school’s first and second State championships in program history. Show them all what you have Imhotep and never look past the game at hand!
anywhere i can watch the La Salle game? like a website of some kind
Another Year, another Overranked and Overrated Ridley team.
1 Playoff Win in 3 Years. I can imagine people over in Folsom aren’t too happy.
Frankford’s turn today!!!
LET’S GO BOYS KNOCK DA KING OFF DA HILL !!!!!
Glad to see Coatsville handed Wissahickon there ASS ha ha.
I sat with some Wissahickon fans at the DTE game and all they did was cry to the refs about the game. One thing for sure. Wissahickon wont be back in the playoffs for a while.
I told you guys back in august Imhotep was hands down the best team in 2a !!! bring it home boyssss!
Thank you pick ’em panel DV 27 Scranton 16
Imhotep beats West Catholic 40 to 8 so for all of you that thought we was out of it undefeated still
#BangBangPantherGang
Actually agree with Phillyboy. The talent level on La Salle’s state championship team was better than this year’s team. If the weather conditions prevent them from throwing freely they could have a tough time against a good team. Herron has been great in the wildcat but they don’t have the ground game they had when Abdul-Rahman and Wade were at RB.
My picks for AAAA:
Coatesville
Neshaminy
Pennsbury
Ridley (although I wouldn’t be surprised at an upset since they didn’t look very impressive last week)
LaSalle
Parkland
Delaware Valley (this could be the best game out of all of them)
@ James Parmes
Excellent point. At the HS level it’s rare to have shut down corners. North Penn had one back on their state champion team in ’03 with Akins, but yeah it’s rare. The more practical way to handle it is to put pressure on the QB. That’s what Bergen Catholic did a couple years ago at Plymouth-Whitemarsh when they had their way against LaSalle.
@Phillyboy,
The key to stopping/slowing a good passing game in HS is pressure on the QB. Not that many teams really have shut down corners so it’s rare to matchup like that. If you put pressure on the LaSalle you have a chance to slow their passing game down. LaSalle has a very nice team but they are definitely very beatable this year. Some of the other years I thought their team was better. The East is wide open this year in AAAA.
WOW DID LASALLE BEAT FRANKFORD ALREADY??????
@tiffy, comparative scores don’t work at this level of the playoffs. Whoever is “on” their game going forward will come out on top. Parkland is playing great ball but it only one average game to send a team home.
@phillyboy
If the passing game aint there, put Herron in the Wildcat. He opens up alot of options. But that’s only if Kane is having a bad day. Herron scored a TD by running, passing and catching in two games this season. I think that’s a PCL record.
Tiffy whitehall played parkland in week5, then won 5 straight including knocking easton off the pedistal. Everyone is better week 11… Have to play em
Parkland football
The way they have played after the first two weeks has me believing they could very easily make a run to the state finals. They have a decent passing game, depth, size, and three really solid backs with quickness and speed. Their QB also can run.
DV beat Whitehall 46-45 in OT. Parkland destroyed Whitehall like 53-24….they size and power running wore down Whitehall…much like it did to Easton in the second half.
DV and Scranton are both formidable opponents and I mean no disrespect to either when I say that unless injuries hurt both their RB’s…they should win the subregional. It is the way I feel and I guess until the games are played it’s all talk. Parkland has improved and what I saw out of DV doesn’t lead me to believe so. Anyways, Scranton may beat them!
LaSalle’s passing game is lethal. They throw pin point passes, run crisp routes, and rarely drop balls. Are there any teams left that have a really good pass defense? That’s the key to beating LaSalle. If their passing game can be diffused, they’re toast. Easier said than done though.
@Josh, well LS – Scranton can’t be your Eastern final but it sounds like you have LS in Hershey.
You must have Scranton over Parkland
LaSalle over Scranton
and LaSalle over who in the Eastern final?
Josh, so your Eastern final is Scranton vs. LaSalle?
I hate to say it because i like watching good high school games but i havent seen a team that can contend with La Salle,(besdies prep) i know that Pennsbury has size but La Salle doesnt have a down hill running game so that isn’ta problem for them. I think the Scranton game will be close at halftime and then La Salle will pull away. However LS and North Allegheny in the state final… Going to be one hell of a game
Pick’Em panel, if you all pick Scranton, it will make the DV win that much sweeter 🙂
the private/public debate. On the one hand, if a parent can afford to send their kid to a private one, go for it. On the other, we see many public schools that mirror colleges in that they they want athletes first and students second. Problem is when a kid gets hurt, cant cut the academics or does not make it to the pros, they’re washed up and left to fend for themselves and fade off into the abyss. Education before athletics.
I have been reading the argument over the Philly Catholic Schools recruting for sports since the summer,i have 3 questions
1 Have any of these schools ever been investigated for wrong doing by their district or the P.I.A.A.
2 have any of these schools ever had an illegal player.
3 have any of these schools ever had a complaint filed by an opposing team or coach.
If not their with in the rules
@ Buddy
Just saw your reply to mark d.
Freakin hilarious.
Just want to throw in about the private vs public school thing. My kids all went, or are going to, public school in Central Bucks. I personally don’t believe in paying to send my kids to private school. But that’s my own personal opinion. Others feel differently, and I have plenty of friends who’s kids go private. That is their decision. Some did it as a legacy, some because their kids flourish better in a smaller school environment, and some did it because of the sports programs. But the point is, they made the decision to do it. Now, a couple of them were approached by the school from an athletic perspective, and that does happen. But no one is twisting any arms here. The families still ultimately make the decision. And at the end of the day, who cares? If the kid can get a better education, or a better sports shot, and the parent’s want to pay the money, who cares? Let them and don’t worry about it. A kid gets out of any school what they put in. Yes, a higher percentage of kids may go to better colleges from private schools, but that is also a factor of numbers. 6 kids out of 300 is a bigger percentage than 6 kids out of 1600. Ultimately, at the end of the day, 95% of any of these kids aren’t going to play D1A college ball, and they are not making the pros. Any family should be able to take advantage of any program that they want if they want to pay for it. People should keep the endgame in mind. It’s not about high school football which is great to watch and cheer on, but it’s about these kids being successful for the rest of their lives. BTW, my kid went to a Central Bucks high school and is playing D1 football. My current football player is a senior in Central Bucks but is choosing not to play football in college. Kids are fickle.
@Jeff you may be right but i have been on Scranton bandwagon all year no time to get off now.I think it will be a great game can’t wait till Friday night
@Ron i agree about Abington struggling on offence,but their defense of frout has been very strong, as you said if curry has the time.I don’t know what type of kicker Berwick has but this kid from Abington can hit from 45 with out a problem he is that good, may be a big factor
Some good points about this already made, but I have sent two boys to La Salle (one an artist, one an athlete) and the school was a great fit for both. There is a sign at the entrance at the school that says “enter to learn” and a sign at the exit that says “leave to serve.” It’s not lipe service, it’s what the place is all about. Believe me Philly Boy, this middle class guy wouldn’t pay 17K a year for “status” or an athletic program, and if you spent 15 minutes around the kids and faculty at the school, you would understand that.
Phillyboy – you are totally out of line and your opinion obviously comes from someone who has no idea what they are talking about. Who are you to be critical of how a family prioritizes their hard earned dollars? Many families make great sacrifices to send their kids to these schools, putting off things that you probably enjoy every year like vacations, new cars, home improvements, etc so that they can send their kids to these schools. The results are there – LaSalle will send a much higher percentage of students to the very best schools, the Ivies, Georgetown, Notre Dame, MIT, and that is the purpose of making these sacrifices. That is just the reality of it. Of course, as soon as these schools have any type of athletic success the “recruiting” comes out. I can assure you form first hand knowledge that it is not true, and that the huge majority of the best players have made the choice to attend these schools on their own and to make the sacrifices necessary to go there. Success breeds more success and the LaSalle football program is just a reflection the incredible success of the entire athletic program right now. Hard to imagine any school in PA in a very long time who has had so much success to that many sports at one time. That success draws kids to want to play there, not recruiting.
@mark d, better get ready to buy a berwick hoodie. i already have one. After last weeks d2 aaa games, Abington Heights offense is having a real hard time scoring, no offensive tds in last 2 games. Berwick has an outstanding defense, who really beat up the dallas qb in the second half. its really going to be hard for AH to move the ball against berwick. if CJ Curry gets blocking from his offensive line, he will pick AH apart Berwick 20 Abington Heights 7
markd, DV wins rematch sorry
Phillyboy, many of these families grew up in an all boy setting and that apparels to many. Central Bucks is a very good district. Many find the course work more rigorous at a GA, Prep or LS and the opportunity to attend a better college may be enhanced by attending one of these schools. Not to say there are not brilliant kids in the public schools, there are. You have to see the camaraderie amongst the kids at LS and Prep to appreciate the full scope of what those schools mean to the kids. They are Christian based teachings about helping others and God knows we need that in this country now more than ever. The kids appreciate the discipline and the zero tolerance policy on drugs is something that our local school districts can’t offer. It’s unfortunate but true. Btw, my kids are in CB School district and attend the public schools. Not sure about HS choices yet. CBSD is an awesome district, in case you want to say I’m ripping the public schools.
Phillyboy. Yes you are entitled to your opinion but you fail to recognize that LaSalle primary goal is education and parents who send their sons to LSCHS strictly for athletics are quickly disillusioned when they either fail to make the team or cannot meet the academic requirements at LSCHS.
In addition, why are you so concerned about how other people spend their money? As the parent of a recent LSCHS grad (and myself a Philadelphia Public School alumni), the reason he went there was not to play sports nor perceived because of a perceived graduate status.
Always interesting how public and parochial parents/graduates feel entitled to criticize the private schools but you rarely here private school parents/graduates comment on public/parochial schools. You should feel grateful that parents like myself pay both public school tuition (thru school taxes) as well as private school tuition.
me bad 834 yards it think it just crazy
@ mard d:
That’s only slightly over 1 td per century.
Doesn’t impress me.
@ Jimbo
Dude, I’m entitled to my opinion. To send a kid miles away every day and spend literally thousands of dollars over 4 years is crazy. You say the parents are coommited to education. Fantastic! What, Central Bucks is not good enough? Give me a break. To the best of my knowledge CB is considered very good, not just good. So, in the final analysis why would somebody do that? Two reasons: (1) want to play on some strong sports program (rather than supporting the “hometown” area), and (2) status. That’s why I favor the public teams over the privates. Here’s hoping that N. Allegheny or some other team pounds LaSalle yet again.
Hey all did you see where a kid from North Carolina threw for 834 years and 10 t.d in a 104-80 win !
I find it funny and even sad that people take shots at SJ Prep, LaSalle, Wood, ACC, McDevitt, Cathedral Prep, PCC and just about any successful catholic school out there. Well, for every one of those there’s Holy Redeemer, PJP2, Berks Catholic, Cardinal O’Hara that plug away happily doing their thing…some successful, some not.
The real issue is small minded people are jealous of success and just can’t keep their #%*!* mouths shut. People used to accuse Berwick of recruiting. I believe I also heard people complain about Strath Haven, CB West, Central Columbia, Clairton etc etc.
Its the human condition. People want given to them what others earn through hard work. Sit down and shut up already!
d 2 finals AAAA
Scranton 28 Del Valley 21 (been on Scranton all year)
AAA
Abington 17 Berwick 14 (if i am wrong Ron i will buy a Berwick hoodie )
AA
lakeland 28 W.A.21 (would be easy to talk me out of this one )
A
Dunmore 35 Old Forge 21 (all my Dunmore friends tell me this woun’t be close )
Barry knows that La Salle has kids from out of state on their roster….
Except La Salle doesn’t have any kids from out of state on their roster.
@phillyboy; LS has about 900 students, almost every single one comes from a “good” school district. Their families obviously believe in education and making the sacrifice for their sons to get the best education available; it’s not dopey and it’s not a slap at other schools. It’s about family choices and it’s not for you to label it dopey.
@harryaston, you really know little about sjp and even less about LaSalle! Yep, sjp has students from south jersey; know what? The school is about6 to 8 miles from jersey. Know what else, 98% of their jersey students don’t play football!
LaSalle had a kicker from California? Now, that is one helluva commute. Post about things you know something about.
@jeff, look, both Scranton and Del Val play mostly a AAA schedule out of a weak district. Do we need to explain it further?
Paul on Mike Bennett LaSalle’s kicker from 2007-2009 you might add that he did not even play football until HS. He played soccer and got cut his Sophomore year. He then went over to the FB team and asked if he could tryout.
No one was recruiting him out of HS.
I have,
Coatesville
CB South
Ridley
Pennridge
LaSalle
Parkland
Scranton
@harryaston
do you have any proof that LS has out of state players or are you just saying that because they kicked the crap out of your Alma mater?
Next round winners in AAAA are:
Coatesville
Neshaminy
Pennsbury
Ridley
LaSalle
Parkland
Scanton
Not sure how parkland jumps Scranton in rankings. They lost to Dv who lost to Scranton. DV beat Whitehall who beat Easton. WHitehall dangerous team right now. TOugh one they lost. Easton has injury bug no?
I like Pennsbury out of D1 there big with pepper and the Mac kid both Division 1 players
And I see Plakland in the east vs pennsbury
2 of the biggest and better programs in the state
@ harryaston.
I don’t know how far back you want to go but La Salle’s place kicker for the last three years has been Winslow from Upper Dublin. Before that Mike Bennett was their kicker. He was from Upper Dublin also. 5 minutes down the road.
Philly Pub, you are correct that LS, Prep and Wood can attract kids from multiple school districts. However, in LS and SJP instance there is a large commitment in terms of time, money and travel. $ 18,600 plus you have to be accepted. You will not see LS or Prep bringing in kids for just a senior year or even Jr and Sr years due to the rigorous curriculum. Now we all know that Public schools move kids around when they really want them. Right now, the best grade school athlete is a Philly kid and guess who attends his games– NPenn Coaches,Abington coaches, along with Prep, Judge,Roman. Now let’s educate you on the largest regional recruiting school in the area– Philly’s own George Washington. They literally transfer kids in to their team mid season from teams they just played in some cases. Good Ol’ Ron Cohen uses the “dangerous situation ” rule and bypasses as transfer restrictions. The reason no ne makes a big deal is they haven’t won the PIAA yet. Tony Smith left Judge which means he should go to Lincoln in his neighborhood. He ends up at Washington due to dangerous situation , yet he never stepped foot inside Lincoln HS . Do you want to dispute the shady situation? Also, when CB West was dominant they had plenty of kids from East playing for them, they offered certain classes at West so they used that to draw the kids. Rod Stone was AD there and never seemed to have a problem collecting talented kids from another school. Hope this helps. Also you didn’t realize, I responded to a chucklehead who said LS has players from Maryland, NJ, Del. It is coaching buddy, believe me. Makes all the difference!
What happen to Easton not suprised Parkland won but the score suprised me ?
@ Jimbo
If a kid lives within a public school district that is already very successful such as Central Bucks that by the way is also free then why would you willingly want to spend thousands of dollars unnecessarily and deal with the transportation challenges? Arguably, that could be considered dopey.
I know la salle and st joe’s both have kids on their rosters from outside the state of pennsylvania- that is a fact- at least jerry admits to st joe’s having new jersey kids and la salle’s place kicker several years ago was from southern california- both school’s are competing for a PA state title? thats just great- I’m a dope and a sore loser and don’t know anything, however, sure does not make sense to me……
@harryaston,what a dope; it’s obvious you know nothing about PCL programs especially LaSalle. Nor do you know a thing about the financial committmen a family makes sending a son to the school. Stick to what you know; whatever that is.
Jerry, the point is that as a “regional” school, LaSalle can “attract” from anywhere. Coleman is Doylestown kid. He could only go to CB East, but if South or West wanted him, not going to happen. LaSalle, Wood, SJP have open enrollment. You want them, go get them. Not true for the publics. Wood wanted Adams from South. Different set of rules. A talented young QB from CBEast transfered to Wood because it offerred a better opportunity, and they made it worthwhile. Don’t pretend it’s about coaching. Not saying there aren’t talented staffs, but the talent level pool that can be pulled from is unlimited. Stop with the pretense.
Harryaston–loser comments about LS and Prep. 80% of LS kids are legacy kids. Rest of kids come from within 15 miles of the school. Don’t be a sore loser. LS has it’s first FBS player –punter Ryan Winslow in 15 years. Who the he’ll is the recruiting director? He s doing a terrible job in getting D 1 type kids…. These kids are football players with high Football IQ s cultivated by a terrific staff. Stop the nonsense. What is your team? I’m quite sure LS staff would make your team a championship contender in a year or 2. Prep kids do come from New Jersey since the school is 20 minutes from NJ. Give LS staff Pennsbury or NPenn Roster and they win multiple titles in a 5 year span. Stop the recruiting noise. Great schools ATTRACT Great Kids.
@ Buddy. Dates, Times and locations of some games aren’t finalized yet. As soon as we get the information we will post it. Thanks.
@ staff:
Have we given up on the brackets?
( I know it’s under “team info”, but not updated)
@PCL Whether it be Parkland, Del Val, or Scranton (PV can’t win this sub-regional) I think all 3 are better than Nazareth this year. This will most likely be the best Sub-Regional winner that District 12 has seen since Liberty in 08, when I believe GW upset the PCL team. Liberty won the state title. But I think whoever comes out is the best look since that Liberty team. Does not mean the outcome won’t be the same, but all 3 are better than Nazareth a year ago.
Boy, was I wrong. Garnet Valley really laid an egg. I expected a lot more out of them, considering how they played the last game of reg season.
Barry, most respectfully, there isn’t one kid from another state on La Salle’s team so I’m not quite sure what you are talking about. The super majority of the kids are from Catholic grade schools in the area.
@harryaston……don’t know a single LaSalle player from any of those locales…can we stop with this recruiting nonsense..Great coaching and dedicated players are what it takes.
It was a great game played by two great teams. Congrats to the Prep on a great season. Go Explorers!!
The LaSalle passing game is a fine tuned machine. Not to take anything away from Wissahickon but was surprised D. East lost to #16 seed. They have no defense. Remember they gave up around 50 to Penncrest a few years ago.
LaSalle -Prep game was exciting. Could have gone either way. LaSalle pulls away with the win. Was that for the state championship? Or at least the finals? Were these two teams that good? How does scranton, del val,Parkland or Pl val size up? Are these teams as good as Naz was last year?
ACC vs Berwick would be great! It would bring back the days of the 90’s. Remember how good 3A football was in back in the 90’s ACC, Berwick, Strath Haven, and Manheim Central. Man those games were unreal.
Very distinct possibility that CB South doesn’t get past Neshaminy. They are a verteran playoff team that hits another level in playoffs.
Same scenerio with Pennsbury/Pennridge. They ( Pennsbury) are the biggest team in D1 and they really bring it during playoffs.
I predict two upsets there ( albeit minor upsets).
you’re right solfootballfan- beating regional high schools like st.joes or la salle very tough, especially when rosters are littered with new jersey, delaware and maryland students……
if cb south wins against neshaminy i think they have potential to make it the the district 1 finals and maybe even win it. however beating a team like st. joes or la salle in the next game would be tough
Attended the La Salle-Prep game today. Great atmosphere, probably as many people as the 2010 state semifinal game v. North Penn. Two great teams, most impressive things to me were La Salle’s defense, which really kept Prep’s ground attack in check, and Sean Coleman, with 4 TDs and 14 catches after being hit so hard three different times that I thought he was out of the game. Prep showed a lot of heart in their second half comeback. Great game.
Hats off to Berwick. The game was 9-7 in the fourth so Dallas played a lot better but Berwick apparently too much. I’ll take Berwick over AH. A berwick ACC game would be AWESOME
Berwick’s bringin it but I don’t know if they can handle the d1/d12 winner.
Berwick defeats Dallas 28-7 to advance to d2 aaa title game at crispin field, against Abington Heights a 13-6 winner over Valley View.Berwick improves to 10-1 and has won 18 out of last 19 games.
so much for garnet valley…
D-East lost 38-35.
i like reading mark d’s stuff because he is a fellow D2 guy but I agree with the other posters.
@ mark d :
We have no idea what you are saying.
Forget about writting a book, just try to write a sentence.
Just trying to make a point not write a book really dont think about it much. as for the ranking their opinions it hard to rank high school all over the country you never know what the teams are like that they play so I with jimbo I dont put much stock in them.Do you watch thouse games on E.S.P.N these ranked High School teams seen some really good team and some really bad and their ranked
@ mark d
Why you skip word when write? Why do use 4 question marks when ask question???? Why not capitalizes “I” when speak first person? Sorry, i had just get off chest!!!!
The national rankings definitely are not worthless. They’re pretty well on. Sure, sometimes teams are overrated or underrated. They refine it as they go. It’s been a while since a PA team has cracked the final top 10 in the USA Today. Think 2003 was the last time.
http://www.sportsfanbase.com
streaming live
@Jimbo i agree, it just struck we the way he said it can they hang with them like if they had no chance could they just stay in the game.so used that to make a point very very good football team at N.A
Anyone know of any live video streams / telecasts of any playoff games this weekend?
@markd, national high schools rankings are worthless but yes, expect NA to be there in the end.
@Jim if Valley View doesn’t turn the ball over i think the game will come down to Valley View return kicking game vrs Abington kicker,Abington can control not kicking to Valley View return men and that kid empress me 43 yard field goal last time i saw him. you know these programs don’t like each other it be a hard hitting game!!! see you their
Ok let’s make some predictions . In District 1 although I am pulling for Pennridge, realistic choice is Pennsbury. I am no fan of their coach but they are built for the Cold. I personally believe a staff like LaSalle or North Allegheny coaching Pennsbury would achieve State title appearances every other year. They have that much size, speed and toughness year after year.
PCL — going to be a war. Tough to beat LS twice in 1 year. Bret Gordon is the smartest Offensive coach around– he will have a winning game plan. Prep O lives on short fields. Their QB is a Good runner but not a good passer.LS 17-14.
LS- Easton rematch in a few weeks…hope all the kids have good health during the playoffs
Look out in D1 AAAA, Garnet Valley has been playing better last few weeks. They look like they could go on a roll.
Nice mark d, heres what I got
Dallas 21 Berwick 14
Wyoming Area 35 LL 7
Old Forge 35 Riverside 20
Dunmore 35 Trail 7
Scranton 42 ESS 8
AH 20 VV 7
Lakeland 30 GAR 13
Del Val 28 whitehall 26
markd, looks good, AH-VV by 3? is interesting, on paper a good game to watch.
@Craig
You asked if N.Allegheny could hang with Prep & La Salle. Fox sports has them ranked no 9 in the Nation!!!! I think they can hang
let hear your predictions
D2 playoffs
AAAA
Scranton 42 E.S.S 14
Del valley 35 Whitehall 21
AAA
Abington 24 V.V 21
Dallas 21 Berwick 14 (you talked me in to it rob)
AA
W.A 28 Lake Lehman 14
Lakeland 35 G.A.R 14
A
Old Forge 42 Riverside 21
Dunmore 35 Lackawanna Trail 14
I’m just gonna say this: Expect a much, much closer game between Berwick and Dallas on Friday….Gonna Say Dallas wins 21-14. Not that Berwick is palying bad football, I just think Dallas is a machine right now.
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For what it worth here’s some numbers,the WVC in divison 1 went 6-13 in non conference games the LFC went 12-2.WVW the only team to win all it WVC games went 0-3 in non confrence games and lost by and avg score of 36-14.this was based on non conference games only, games like Pittston and W.A or Lakeland Valley View were not counted as they were division crossover and not non conference.
Abington is not playing with a freshman tailback. Was at game Saturday, starter is Ryan Judge, #28. He took over for Quinn Karam, who suffered an injury earlier in season. As for losing to Scranton, I wouldn’t put much stock in that game, Scranton is a very good AAAA team. Also, Show and quarterback have played defense all year, are two of their best players. As for VV and Berwick history, they’ve played 7 times. VV has won 3 times, 14-3 in 1984, when Berwick was ranked #1 in the nation, 24-21 in 1999, and 35-21 in 2010, the only time game was played at VV. Two of the games Berwick won were blowouts, other two were close.
@Ron Abington is using Ryan Judge at RB. He is a senior. And Show and Pasqualichio have both played defense all season. Coughlin is totally one dimensional. Dallas will present a much tougher challenge with their offense. Roccogrande can run but they also have a very mobile QB in Zapoticky. He killed Lake-Lehman with his feet and scrambling on Saturday. Siminovitch is a tough matchup for any HS secondary due to his size, speed and athletic ability. Berwick may win but it won’t be anywhere near the first game. As for the VV-Abington game I think they will put up a lot more than 3 total TD’s. Too much offense in the game. I think both games could go either way and see both games within 7 points. I am a VV guy but I really respect what Abington has done up front all season. Their offensive and defensive lines have been impressive all season. One thing to remember is that VV and Dallas have playoff experience and that can be a factor too. VV needs their defensive front and LB’s to play well against the run and pressure Pasqualichio. Show will be hard to cover if the QB has time.
@Ron Dallas basically played the same teams as Berwick,as for that run defence after WVW thouse teams have a combine record of 18-42!!!! You keep talking about a good Coughlin team, same one that just got by Western Wayne a divison 2 LFC team with 3 wins ???? like i said before i havent seen Dallas play and i am leaning toward Berwick to win that game, but to say the best run defence in D2 AAA that a bold bold statement.
@Ron
It’s not who they have played, it’s how they have played. Dallas has also beat Coughlin and held Evans in check. They just held the kid from Lehman to negative yardage on 10-14 carries. I’m just saying I think it will be a much different game this time around. Berwick got them early and I expect Dallas will return the favor this time.
Anyone have any info on Muhlenberg? Coughlin has them this week in the EC. They a paasing team? Running team? Any info?
@KMAC:
I thought Coatesville was the higher seed.
Therefore, you are correct.
As a matter of fact, I think coatesville makes the D1 final.
How good is north Allegheny? they good enough to hang with prep or La Salle?
D1 champ – Pennridge
(upset of the week) – Downingtown West over Ridley
@ Mark, Who has Dallas played the last 7 weeks that has changed your mind? Berwick played a good Coughlin team who featured the wvc top rusher in Zac Evans and held him to 27 total rushing yards. Since the Valley West game Berwick has really tighten up their run defense, nobody in d2 aaa has a better defense against the run. i see Berwick winning 35-7. As far as AH-Valley View game, AH playing with freshman tb and using Show and their qb on defense i pick Valley View to win 14-10.
Buddy, the 8-9 game may not go higher seed, in regular season Coatesville (9) flattened Unionville (8) 42-0.
Prep wins a close one over Lasalle. Until a team show they can run the ball on prep nobody will beat them. Prep only gave up two rushing TD’s all season and one was the first game of season.
@ Ron i would love for Valley View to play at Crispin Field becuse it would mean we beat Abington lol lol so i with you their !!!!!!It the playoff with few exceptions the team that are their are very good teams so it a turnover or a big play or two that usally decides these game
@Mark
Valley View’s problem hasn’t been on offense at all this season and this is despite losing a great tailback in Phillips. The Cougars have never quite recovered from losing 8 starters on defense from 2011. And you can add McAndrew and Sebastianelli to that list now also. The defense has improved over the last few weeks with some adjustments. Valley View can beat Abington if they 1) Do not turn the ball over and 2) Find a way to contain JC Show which may be accomplished with QB pressure as opposed to great coverage. I see this as a very even game. Abington has an edge with home field and their kicker. The kicker might just be the difference. I see a very close game. The first meeting was 14-14 with Valley View driving. A turnover and a bomb 40+yd FG made it 17-14 and Valley View turned it over a few times in the second half and their defense was on the field the entire half and got tired. Abington was the better team that day but they have some injury issues now also.
In District 2 AAA I believe both Berwick and Abington are ripe for an upset. Valley View and Dallas both had to overcome a form of adversity earlier in the season. Dallas was learning how to play for a new head coach, and Valley View had to learn how to play without their star player (Phillips). I think both teams are playing much better at this point and have hit their collective stride. Additionally, I have a ton of resepct for the coaching staffs at both Abington and Berwick but these are high school kids and I believe both teams will come into Saturday a bit overconfident. With Berwick blowing out Dallas earlier and Abington doing the same to Valley View, it is only natural for them to feel that way. I would not be surprised at all to see a rematch of last years District Championship game.
@Mark
if Valley View has a problem it on the defence side of the ball,Valley View has a very good offence of line and a good pack of running backs.
would have like to see what they could have done with Phillps if he didnt get hurt.Passing game is poor and the defence breaks down and give up big plays!Special teams are strong.if they can stay away from turnover they can hang with most teams I think they will give Abington a better game than the frist time,but dont under estimate Abington from that Scranton score they are a very good team.
@ mark d in 1977, berwick defeated valley view 17-12 for ec title at cripin field. all time series berwick leads 5-3. i wouldnt mind seeing valley view play at crispin field again. i saw valley view defeat dallas last year for d2 title. both berwick and valley view have great fan support.
Dallas over Berwick 21-7. I just think Dallas has played with an edge over the past 7 weeks. They were picked by many to win the District Championship this year, or be in the final. It’s taken time to get used to the new coaches but the players have responded very well over the past 7 weeks.
Abington Heights 28-14 over Valley View. I just don’t think Valley View has enough offense. I could be wrong, but what a great time of the year for High School Football.
@RON
It’s not the 80’s & 90’s anymore! No one fears Berwick anymore. Just because Curry is back doesn’t make anyone fear them. Berwick played a very weak schedule. Selingsgrove is terrible and that was a 10 point win. Pittston isn’t a good team and that took a TD in the final 1:20 to win by 2. Abington has played as the best AAA team so far this year.
In D1 all the higher seeds win their respective first round EXCEPT Neshaminy beats PW.
LaSalle beats Prep in a squeaker ( unfortunately)
When will they post the teams in D11 ?
@Fred
St Joe is not going to roll over La Salle no matter what. Not with Steinmetz’s defense. They could win the game but they’re not going to roll them over. Should be a good one. And yes I think La Salle can definitely win the game!!
@Ron Crispin field is the tough place to play,but check you history becuse Vally View has won their twice in playoff games.pluse both Abington and Valley View travel well if Valley View can get past Abington,they show up at Crispin field with about 5000 of their own fans !!!!Play off time what could be more fun,lets hear the picks out their !!!!would love to know who the big favorites in d 11 and d4
@Jim from what i understand Abington is beat up at running back and had a freshman tail back and 2 team fullback,but injury is something every team has to deal with.Scranton offence just has to many weapons, lots of people under estimate their over all team speed,they have thouse big plugs on the defence of line and their linebackers are very active good size and speed with their defence of backs they are a complete team
@fred, of course LaSalle can win; it’s not a matter of not having their shit together. If you had any understanding of the injury situation they face, you’d phrase it differently.
i got garnet valley winning d1
Once again D3 AA has multiple undefeated teams heading into the district playoffs.
I think the people that post on this site have short memories.In week 3 Berwick defeated Dallas 50-14. Berwick had subs in the 3rd quarter.Dallas had a 50 yard rushing td and a 70 yard passing td, and that was it. Berwick ran through dallas and had recievers open all the time.Berwick will not score 50 points this game because Coach Curry will pull his starters early saving them for d2 final.If AH wins over Valley View they will find out its a lot harder winning at Crispin field than their pit. Berwick has the best fan base in d2.
Post your District winners.
markd, something not right with AH, very uncharacteristic of them. 0 points scored at home on grass? Not even going to talk about the D
That’s it, I’m going out on a limb to pick the D1 champ. Drum roll please………….Pennridge, baby. That’s my pick and I’m sticking with it.
Mack
I agree the WVC isn’t all that good this year and while I thought Dallas was bad earlier in the year they have REALLY turned things around. I actually think they will beat Berwick too and I honestly think they have a shot at beating AH/VV for the title. If AH had a healthy backfield they would be my pick but with a freshman TB you have to second guess their chances.
Downingtown East and Ridley aren’t the only teams from D1 that could do some damage in AAAA this year. Coatesville, for example… Their only two losses came to very good teams, one being Downingtown East by one point in the final seconds of the game. Since then, they have steamrolled everyone. A second round rematch at Downingtown East seems likely, and I think the winner of that game wins D1.
@James those matchups all look correct except Downingtown West & Wissahickon should be switched. The both finished 7-3 with 890 total points, but the tie-break goes to D-West because:
1 – Head to head (Did not play each other)
2- W/L record against common opponents (only common opponent was Cheltenham, who beat Wissahickon but lost to D-West)
i am a La Salle fan, but if they dont get their **** together prep is going to roll right over them. Anyone think La Salle can win?
The winner of Valley View at Abington Heights will win the District 2 AAA Title. The WVC is very weak this year. I think Dallas could even upset Berwick. Dallas isn’t the same team they were 9 weeks ago. Abington is the 2 seed but the favorite in my eyes.
@Jim not going to busy you chops becuse i know how good Abington is that a very solid football team ,but now you have seen what i seen with Scranton they really have it togerther this year.Well ses yoU next Saturday GO COUGARS
@ PCL fan
The LaSalle/SJP winner has a definite chance to win the whole thing but I tell you, think N. Allegheny is really strong. They’re rolling. Seems like they beat everybody by 45-3 or so. Gateway is strong too. Think the WPIAL champ at AAAA should be the favorite.
Will the LaSalle- St Joe Prep Game determine the State Champion?
Can either one of these teams beat most other teams in the State?
Are the western teams under-rated?
Will D-town East or Ridley emerge as the eastern state champs?
Are we sure Perkiomen Valley didn’t make it ?
ACC is the top team in district 11 AAA this year. But nowhere near the talent of the last couple of years. But one guy they do have is Colin McDermott who has had a tremendous year. Last night against Becahi he set the LVC single game rushing record with 422 yards rushing. The line has done a great job for him this year. 2114 yards so far with 26 touchdowns. Should have no problem winning districts this year. But no further. Still with what we lost from last year 5-5 is a great accomplishment.
WHEN ARE THE RANKINGS GOING TO BE POSTED AND ALSO THE PLAYOFF BRKS .. WAITING TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY FALLS IN . THANKS
Unofficial D1 (From Joe Kane)
# 16 Downingtown West @ # 1 Downingtown East
# 9 Coatesville @ # 8 Unionville
# 13 Neshaminy @ # 4 Plymouth-Whitemarsh
# 12 Haverford Township @ # 5 Central Bucks South
# 15 Wissahickon @ # 2 Ridley
# 10 Garnet Valley @ # 7 Spring-Ford
# 14 Abington @ # 3 Pennridge
# 11 West Chester Rustin @ # 6 Pennsbury
Who has the hottest offence in PA right now any suggestions?
@Philly It might be either blue MOuntain or ACC but I’m not sure. From what I hear D11 AAA is weak this year
Who’s the top AAA team in D11?
100% agreed with Rollie. Crestwood might be 7-3 but couldn’t even be competitive with any good team they played this year. Giving up 262 yards to a running back is laughable. I’m relieved Valley View will get in over these guys because they have earned it. Dallas should have no problems with Lehman. Lehman has a nice run D but very suspect in the pass game. And what does Dallas like to do? Pass the ball. they have 3 nice targets and their Qb is very good. 35-8 dallas is my prediction. Lehman has a verrrry bright future though, as does Crestwood.
Crestwood…exposed…3rd team with a winning record on their schedule=3rd loss. Coughlin wins 42-20. Evans goes for 265 & 5 TD’s. If Dallas beats Lake-Lehman, Dallas goes to districts and Crestwood to the EC. Dallas has beaten Lake-Lehman 10 of the last 11 years and 41 out of 57 times over the series. Crestwood’s odds are not encouraging. Of course, no matter which of them makes districts the D2 AAA champ will likely be Berwick or Abington Heights anyway.
How about West Chester Henderson (D1 AAA) taking undefeated Downingtown East (D1 AAAA, #3 in the state) to the brink before losing 6-3. Henderson will make some noise in the D1 AAA playoffs. Pottsgrove and Academy Park better watch their backs!
According to Rick O’Brien:
The Catholic League Class AAAA final will be played next Saturday, 1 p.m at William Tennent High.
The Catholic League Class AAA final will be played next Saturday, 7 p.m. at Plymouth Whitemarsh High.
@Jim havent been to Air Force yet may be next year
the pit as real a HS stadium as it gets and is the best place to watch a game in D2. Been to West point, Annapolis and Air Force academy stadiums. All equally as fun to root on our future hero’s
Jim you probably right and if it was fri. night in a real stadium i probably go.Lucky me will be at West Point Saturday afternoon watching the Army Black Knights take on the Air Force Falcons,if you never been their trust me it the best venue to tail gate and watch a collage football game any where !!!!!
WVW is in Eastern Conf and Scr/AH could be a great game to watch
Thanks Jim i didnt know with the new format their was no wild card for d2,you are correct WVW can not get in the d/2/4/11 playoff.I will stand by my statement even playing in that roller skateing ring i still think Scranton will win by 14.
markd, Scranton is playing a hot AH playing in the pit on wet grass. That favors AH. WVW is out, only 2 D2 teams in sub regional locked up by scranton/DV. Scranton and DV on same side of bracket. Easton and PArkland on same side of bracket if teams who should win win.
@ Ron the only thing i saying is i only seen Berwick play once and that was wyoming valley west in my opinion they got their buts kicked.looking at the WVC this year would you agree it a down year?i going on that the teams in the LFC looks like a stronger conference this year .Iwill agree that Crispin is a very very hard place to play and that is a big advantage for Berwick.What i like to know have you seen Abington or Valley View play this year ???? Beside Berwick i seen coughlin and crestwood play and they in my opinion would not have won 5 games in the LFC this year
@Mark d. just because Valley View and Abington Heights play Del Valley and Scranton in the lfc makes them so much better than Berwick. What a joke! I have seen Berwick play all season long, they are the real deal, offense and defense. Week 11 Valley View will be at Crispin Field, they will find how good Berwick is. Then week 12 Abington Heights comes to Berwick. Having the home field advantage is a very big plus,if you havent seen Crispin Field,Berwick fans can be very noisy. its going to take a super effort from AH to win d2 because the Berwick players and fans want to win the title so badly this year.
&Jim i stand corrected Strod plays Pleasent mt the seeding could get all turned around
@ Jim i would be very suprised if Scranton didnt beat Abington by 14 points.if you look at the D 11 rankings on this site as of now Scranton is the one seed and wyoming valley west is the eight Del valley no 3 and Parkland 6 if you look at who all are playing i dont see how their would be much change in thouse seeding unless their would be big up sets
MarkD, if Scranton, Easton, Del Vel, Stroudsburg, Parkland, North, & White Hall win. I think Scranton gets North and Del Val gets Whitehall. If scranton/Del Val win, Del val goes to Scranton week 12. Parkland and Eaton will be in the other bracket. BTW Scranton is very beatable and Abington Heights just might do it. Del Val had their shot and blew it. A Def Coach needs to bump/harass quiller, then shadow him. Also a coord. blitzing of Waiters disrupts the quick strike.
it going to take a very good team playing at the top of their game to beat Scranton.The way the bracket look like it going to fall in the 2/4/11 AAAA playoff Del Valley will be getting a rematch with Parkland in the opening round,Whitehall looks lot a hot team heading in to the playoffs.as for AAA Abington is the top team right now,as for Berwick i not sure that they could beat Valley View,never mind Abington
Wonder if Scranton or Del Valley can take out the D11 champ this year. Maybe this is the year. And likewise for Berwick.
I agree with Jim B. Abington Heights plays much tougher competition just by virtue of the fact they play in the Lackawanna League which is superior to the WVC down in Luzerne County. Scranton and Del Val are tougher than anyone Berwick plays. Berwick and AH both beat their common opponents…Pittston and Dallas.
I’m not predicting a winner, but if they are opposite ends of the brackets they should play each other in the District title game.
It amazes me that people want to hand the title to Berwick just because Curry is the coach. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great coach. But he’s been away. Now he’s back with a team he inherited. Curry should be thanking Coach Campbell for not leaving the cupboard bare.
@ bert you were right Dallas can catch Valley View it going to be close.Right now Valley View is 40 points ahead of Dallas,but Dallas will get 140 points for beating Lake Lehman,Valley View 100 for North Pocono so they be tied.Coughlin @ Crestwood and West Scranton @ Prep so both teams can only get 10 pionts out of thouse games.Dallas need wins by Hazelton,Pittston,Willimsport & Tunk Valley View by Lakeland ,Wallenpaupack,Honesdale and East Strod North.The only win i see on paper for Dallas would be Tunk @ Carbondale,for Valley View i think Lakeland is a good bet.After that it all up in the air,unless Coughlin beat Crestwood them never mind , boy you got to love High School Football
@Bert
The criteria for tiebreakers is on the D-1 website, but to save you the trip, here it is….
1 – Head to head
2- W/L record against common opponents.
3- W/L record for the season
4- Win Pct vs. Common Opponents
5- Win Pct of regular season
6- Fewest points allowed head-to-head
7- Fewest points allowed vs. Common Opponents
8- Fewest points allowed during regular season
9- Flip a coin
The #4 and 5 criteria mean nothing, because they would be decided in 2 or 3. In the past few years, we’ve had a few tiebreakers go to #7.
Bert:google piaa football, has to be there.
Question for anyone who can answer? In determining a District playoff berth, what happens when 2 teams end up tied in points, no head-to-head, from different conferences?
Phillyboy
Don’t under estimate Abington Heights. They will win D2 AAA.
Berwick should emerge from their district. They’re the top dog. Have great coaching and tradition.
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Bert & Jim hate to agree with him but the Valley View kids do get the mouth going,Another sign of the coaching they have.West has always been that way,but i still think the champ trash talkers in D2 Riverside.As for the points both teams still have to win 2 games before points matter.
bert, I want to make sure I distinguish trash talking vs being dirty. It happens, some teams more, some teams less.
Bert, 1st hand from 3 reliable players.
Mark,
I do like Coughlin when they play Crestwood, but they are inconsistent, game could go either way. VV better hope Crusaders win, because even though Mark D is right about Lehman having 5 or 6 wins, if it comes down to Dallas and VV, Dallas still can outpoint them. As for Jim saying VV and West are worst trash talkers in D2, are you on the field to hear this, or is this heresay?
Mark D, VV worst trash talkers in D2 followed by West. Makes for some interesting conversations this week on the field !
@Mark
I have watched Valley View all year and yes West Scranton has a chance to win that game.It all depends which Valley View team shows up,the one that rushed for 200 yards and 3 td against Del Valley in the first half or the one that turned the ball over 5 times in the second half and got beat all over the field West is very phycial but not sure they can handle Valley View speed should be a good game.
@Saus I was more referring to the fact that we don’t really blink at QB’s in the Lehigh Valley unless they are guys like Nosovitch, Persa, Gonzo, Smith, Lenahan, Harding etc who were state players of the year, had unreal numbers, and went to FBS schools. Shaf is not going to have off the chart numbers, most likely will not be all state, and is going to an FCS school. So he doesn’t get the attention he deserves in my opinion.
@Bert Thanks. Who do you like between Coughlin & Crestwood? Also, does West Scranton have a chance against VV. VV didn’t look to great on offense. What are your thoughts?
How about if Coughlin beats Bewrick and Crestwood. Then we will be looking at four 7-3 teams for two spots. It’s a BIG if tho.
P.S @
Bert Lake Lehman only has 5 wins and 6 is the most thay can have so that only 140 is the most that win could have
@Bert
Valley View is all ready 20 points a head with the same record and yes they will get 150 points if they beat Lake Lehman but Valley view will get 140 for beating West Scranton.Coughlin has to play Berwick which will probaly be a loss and some one has to loose the Crestwood Coughlin game so at the most their only 20 point from thouse wins.Now you counting on Pittston area Tunk williamsport Hazelton who have 6 total wins.
i take my chance with Lakeland, E.S North, Prep,Honesdale and Wallempapack with 22 wins
Mark,
Valley View is not in yet, even if they win their last 2 games. If Dallas wins out, it will come down to points accumulated by teams they have beaten winning upcoming games. Yes Dallas plays Lake Lehman, but they have 7 wins already, so Dallas picks up 150 points with that win. Valley View has to hope for wins in the last 2 weeks from Lakeland, East Stroudsburg North, and Honesdale, all of whom have tough games ahead. If Coughlin beats Crestwood, it’ll be a moot point, Dallas and Valley View will get the 3rd ands 4th seeds.
@Jack-why do you think Nick Shafnisky will NOT get the recognition he deserves simply due to playing in the Lehigh Valley??? Actually its quite the opposite, if he were playing in D2, D4, D5, D6, D8, D9 then I can understand that statement but there are a TON of talented players who are always recognized in the Lehigh Valley. Many colleges coaches intentionally stop in the Valley due to the high number of potential college level players. Matt Millen and Dan Koplan took it to the next level and I wouldn’t be surprised if many college coaches look specifically at Whitehall just to see who they have on the field.
Annouced today in the Scranton Times,Frank Pazzaglia will retire after the season.Fourth all time with 344 wins in the state of P.A.He is a coach who will be missed
I don’t think Dallas can outpoint Valley View either. Dallas’ only shot is if they win out AND if Coughlin beats Crestwood. Crestwood gets 120 pts for beating Williamsport (AAAA)…with no additional power pts because Williamsport is winless. Dallas gets 100 pts for beating Tunkhannock and power pts for Tunk’s 2 wins. They would get 80 pts for beating Lehman…and power pts for each of Lehman’s 5 (or 6) wins. Yes, it will be that close. Plus all the wins of each team’s opponents count for power points. So we really won’t know until the dust settles on the regular season. The lack of quality opponents definitely is a vulnerability for Crestwood. Dallas gets lots of Bonus pts for beating Coughlin, Crestwood and presumably Lehman. (Points formula – http://www.piaad6.org/piaafb.htm)
Frankford-Imhotep won’t be played; it was only a contingency game if neither made the PPL playoffs.
@phillyboy, I do agree with your PPL comments but all Imhotep can do is play the schedule they’ve been given. I think we agree you can’t compare a PPL schedule to a PCL schedule; it’s night and day.
@phillyboy, there are certain teams who can hold their own playing “up”; West Catholic has always been one of those teams. Do they always win playing AAA and AAAA teams? No, but they are always competitive.
I believe this year’s Imhotep team is one who can be competitive on higher levels. They’ve got speed on both sides of the ball and size up front; they may also have the best running back tandem in PA. Young is very underappreciated; game breaking speed.
@Kmac, Frankford – Imhotep will be interesting; Frankford doesn’t seem to be playing as well since DiGiorgio began playing hurt; don’t be shocked if Imhotep gets the W. If it all plays out as expected, both these teams will eventually need to step up and beat a PCL team to move forward. Frankford will be challenged to accomplish that much more than Imhotep will be.
Looks like if they win out Valley View can do no worse than the 4 seed.Dallas has a aa team left to play so i don’t think they can out point Valley View.If Coughlin beats Crestwood it looks like on points that Dallas may get in.But i sure that many other games will determine the final points if all end up 7-3
@Jeff
Looks like mission derailed it was one heck of a game both should do well in the playoffs
Rob
I will admit Dallas has proved me wrong. They are playing good football right now.
Rob,
Yes, Dallas has now EARNED a place in the playoff conversation because they are now 5-3 and beat some decent teams. But, I will say it again, it was a little premature to include them in that conversation when they were sitting at 2-3, having wins against Williamsport and Piitston.
Jim B, do you now think Dallas should be in the playoff conversation? They are going to finish 7-3 so I would assume yes? Also, where is that western wayne fan… Anyone know?
@phillyboy,
Imhotep is the best cause jimbo said so. You have some real serious issues if you disagree with jimbo! I would really like to know who the four state champions will be this year, jimbo?
i didnt know valley view only had 3 losses, so i will change my d2 aaa predictions
1 Berwick
2 Abington Heights
3.Valley View
4.Dallas
Berwick defeats Dallas 21-7 Ab Hts defeats vv 28-7. Ah will play at Berwick for title (tossup}
In D2 AAA Berwick and Abington will be the top two seeds. Then it will come down to Crestwood, Dallas, and Valley View. It looks like both Valley View and Dallas will go 7-3. If Crestwood loses to Coughlin, they are out. But, if Crestwood does beat Coughlin, it will come down to points among VV, Crestwood, and Dallas. All of which would be 7-3.
My guess is Coughlin beats Crestwood, and Coughlin, Crestwood, and Scranton Prep all go Eastern Confernce. While districts will be Berwick, Abington, Valley View, and Dallas.
Here is my d2 aaa playoff predictions :
1. Berwick ( will defeat coughlin and hazleton)
2. Abing Hts ( will lose to scranton)
3. Dallas ( will defeat Tunk and Lake Lehman)
4. Crestwood ( will lose to coughlin)
First round Crestwood @ Berwick Dallas @ Ab Hts
@Jimbo & Phillyboy
It would seem your argument will get tested this friday with Frankford (AAAA) and Imhotep (AA); wouldn’t it? Providing schedule is correct.
D2 AAA Standing, TEAM, RECORD, ESTIMATED POINTS
Abington Heights
7-1
950 points
BERWICK
7-1
940 points
Crestwood
6-2
750 points
Scranton Prep
5-3
610 points
Valley View
5-3
720 points
Dallas
5-3
680 points
Coughlin
5-3
620 points
West Scranton
4-4
470 points
@rollie Ciffo I agree Crestwood was totally outplayed. I think Coughlin will run up and down the field on them. As for Dallas, they will make the playoffs if Coughlin can beat them. At this point in time, the teams that are playing the best at this time of year should be in the playoffs. Maybe that will hold true for Dallas.
@ Jimbo
First of all, I would like to see Imhotep become the first public league state champs. After all, I am a boy from philly. And their margins of victory are impressive. But they’ve beaten teams in the public league that I’ve barely ever heard of. Yeah, Strath Haven is a strong program but they’re only 4-4 on the year, apparently having an off year. But regardless, think you’re underestimating the difference in the level of play at AAA and AAAA. It’s like a wrestler or boxer moving up a weight class or a chess player playing in a higher rated tournament. I hope Imhotep is as good as they seem. We’ll see.
Nick Shafinisky great QB who will never get the recognition he deserves because he plays in the valley. Of course the kid is not in same stratoshere as Persa, Gonzalez, or Nosovitch but the kid deserves some love.
@jiveturkey, you’re the one who comes on here with your condescending attitude toward every other poster. Your act as if you know all has worn thin. Actually, as with your upset prediction, your knowledge level is there for all to see. Nobody needs me to point it out to them.
@phillyboy, saying Imhotep would get creamed in AAA or AAAA is just as stupid as saying they’re the 3rd best team in the state. If you’ve actually seen them play (which jiveturkey has never done) you would realize they can hold their own in both AAA and AAAA. See Strath Haven for an example; they may have the best rushing backfield in the state. Until it plays out on the field, nobody really knows.
Crestwood exposed by Dallas tonight in a 35-12 blow out up at Crestwood in District 2. Dallas will probably finish 7-3 and may eke out a playoff spot. Crestwood will beat Williamsport. I would not be at all surprised to see Coughlin also blow out Crestwood.
JAck12, I measure a school and it’s players by their grades, schools ranking in the state…,where they are ranked as a team is fine, but in the real world, it means nothing. I had no idea who they were and googled their web site. Very distrubing.Is this school in the US in the year 2012? Nothing agaisnt the kids, something is not right here.
@ littleguyscoach
I think Imhotep will make some noise in the playoffs, but you’re getting all crazy to say they are #3 in the state regardless of classification. Their schedule is cupcake city. They’ve beaten powerhouses Roxborough and University City among others. Once they get deeper in the playoffs they could get a reality check. They have a chance to win states at AA but they would get creamed at AAA or AAAA.
Downingtown East and Pennridge have the best chance to win district 1. Ridley has an undefeated record but they havn’t beaten anybody really strong nor have they dominated.
@littleguyscoach,
Let me define upset for you. Team should win by alot, but the other team gets lucky. Somebody clueless would not predict an upset, they would say no doubt PC wins, or something like that. Do you know why they call them types of things upsets? I’m sure you do because you obviously are not “clueless”, but I’ll fill you in anyway. There was a big horse race a long time ago where the best horses ,far and wide, raced to see who was the best in the land. They needed to add a few horses for betting purposes, so they brought in some locals. Wow if one of them local horses win! I’m sure you know, but for those who don’t, that horse went by the name Upset. Hence the term upset.
@Jimbo,
Congratulations! You can read a box score. I am obviously not in the same league as you when it comes to picking upsets. However, I’m really not sure what your infatuation with me is? I guess it’s cool that you follow me like a puppy dog, but I’m sure you have better things to do than sit and wait for me to make a post.
@ Jack,
We should all thank Imhotep for giving the eastern side of the state some well needed recognition. LaSalle, Wood, and West, along with District 1 have failed to do that. Imhotep as a school and it’s values are terrible. Unfortunate but that is what is getting recognized.
@ Dave Mika
Nick Safnisky, QB, Whitehall:
20 – 28, 172 yds, 2 TDs
15 carries, 202 yds, 2 TDs
@fred why isn’t imhotep a real school? you don’t have a clue at all so save it. I wonder why this side of the state hates on each other so much we need to stick together. Imhotep is getting the East some well needed recognition, state wide and nationally. I’m tired of the imhotep hate.
just wanted to say this time of year is great.you can see it in everyone’s faces.thanks for coordinating all the stats. h.s.footbal is #1!!!!
Pennridge: 0 turnovers
North Penn: 2 turnovers
That essentially was the ballgame.
I just wanna see an SOL team in the eastern final, preferable against a D11 team.
That would certainly save the season.
jimbo, IMHOTEP is not a real school no matter how you slice it.
Kyle Bigam really stood out last night in the Pennridge, North Penn game. Not only did he haul in the game winning grab with one hand, he also had a pick and a long punt return to set up a score. Bigam really stepped up to take some of the load off of Mike Class
Week 8 – Who stood out this weekend? It can be a player or team.
@jiveturkey, your Upset of the Week; Prep Charter over Imhotep.
Final Score:
Imhotep 47 – Prep Charter 0
jive turkey you r clueless Imhotep is a top 3 team in the state no mattter what classification!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Jeff no that only 2 1/2 times better lol good luck to both teams hopeing they both come out of the game healthy
Mark D, Scranton is 10 x better than VV.
Scr 43 VV 17
DV 49 VV 18
each match up has its own unique things about it.
Schor’s talent comes out on top and his line will give him the opportunity to make things happen.
@ Jeff
Well we will find out tonight!Scranton is a much better team than Valley View, i think it going to be one heck of a game as i said before a turover usally decides these games.I hoping they meet again in the 2/4/11 playoff final
Mark D, I think DV will do the same thing they did to VV and bang up Scranton this week:)Not to be obnoxious, but they are on a mission.
North Penn MUST win out AND still get some help to make playoffs.
@Ron i agree pluse Valley View is very beat up as of tuesday only had a freshman to play tail back !pluse Prep has own them,6 points scored by Valley View in 3 years !!!!
gets out coached very very badly
@mark
I like prep over valley view.both are good teams but i think Prep’s passing and running game will keep VV off balance. I’ll take Wyoming Area over GAR by at least 2 touchdowns. Wyoming Area just a better team overall. Dallas will crush crestwood by at least 3 tds. Crestwood’s record is very deceiving.
David, NP needs to win out to have any shot at playoffs.
@ Brian….That is a huge game for North Penn. A loss could hurt their chances of making the playoffs.
Big game of the week Pennridge vs North Penn. Again home field advantage will have a major impact and Pennridge is the underdog according to Cooney & Co. at the Intel. Good to be the underdog. If Pennridge plays like they did against CB South they have a shot. Should be a great hard hitting game.
Del Val HS is actually located in Matamoris, PA, which is a few miles East of Milfrod. The school was formed in the late 50’s with the merger of Milford HS and Matamoris HS. They have only had a football program for the past 20 years.
Some good games this weekend. Who do you like between Prep and Valley View. Also, Wyoming Area and GAR, and Dallas VS Crestwood.
@Dave
i like Scranton 42-38 in a shoot out i think their just to many skilled players on both teams for the defence to control the game and as any big game turnovers will be the key.
Upset of the week. Prep Charter beats Imhotep. No stone cold mortal lock, but it has a shot at happening.
Delaware Valley HS is in Milford PA and serves Pike County. Its right off I-84 in eastern PA just across the NY state border.
Delaware Valley is an hour and a half north of Allentown area or an hour north of East Stroudsburg S. Near Port Jervis NY
DV and Scranton both played 7 games and 5 common opponents. 2 uncommon games are DV playing Parkland/Abington Hts and Scranton playing Pittston/Scranton Prep.
QB rating:
Quiller SCR 207
Schor DV 222
Offense: Run Pass Total Yards
Scr 1591 1064 2655
DV 1381 1666 3047
Defense:
Scr 1002 662 1664
DV 1503 714 2217
Backs avg yards per carry:
McCarthy Scr 8.5
Santiago Dv 7.2
Receivers avg yards:
Quillers Scr 24
Decker DV 21
Markowitz DV 18
Kicker points:
Fernandez Scr 20
Paulison DV 35
On paper looks like a toss up. Some things to consider. When did starting O and D leave a game in big wins? Injuries? Differences in caliber of the teams in the uncommon games? Rivalry game outcomes tending to be closer than regular season games? Does home field advantage help? Is weather a factor? I’d hate to have to bet the farm on a winner. Good luck to both.
@Bob, are you Jordan Andrews father? Nobody on Malvern looked like a player against LaSalle; Malvern was pathetic on both sides of the ball.
It’s self-explanatory where Scranton is located but where is Del. Valley located? Anybody know?
DV 34, Scranton 27.
@ District Two fans. What do you think of the Delaware Valley vs Scranton game?
MArk D, Blue Ridge TV13 is and rumors of a Scranton station being there.
Has any body heard if the Scranton @ Del Valley game will on t.v ????????
@Ron
ok didnt know that A.H got banged up in that game and you right Berwick should end up with the top seed A.H wount beat Scranton.
I didnt make the post about Scranton o line struggling with Del Valley tackels. i saw them give up 347 yards rushing to Valley View and made the comment that Scranton has a better running game. i think the game is going to be a high scoreing shoot out !!!!
Personally I thought the Prep & LS game lived up to the hype. Both teams played good defense. Good defenses play to make turnovers. Offensively both teams struggled. Prep made the big plays when it counted most. I was the first to talk about this Jones kid on the Prep team. Can’t wait until they do it all over again in about a month. Get your Popcorn ready!
Player to watch: Jordan Andrews – Defensive Tackle – Malvern Prep.. looks like hes around 6’1/6’2 and about 250.. very quick off the ball and strong has 11 sacks this season & has had 4 sacks in a game twice against coatsvill & upper darby with the rest of the sacks coming against GA, LaSalle & Carroll from DC.. very underrated player in my eyes should be first team all area……. keep an eye out for him
Rollie if you go to dv scr game get there early, they dont have a separate visitors stands. I am sure it will be packed
@Mark AH finished the Prep game with 3rd string tailback, they are banged up. have w.scranton friday and scranton week 10. Berwick will beat pittston,coughlin, and hazleton to get that #1 seed. Dont let that valley west game fool you, score was 22-15 in 3rd quarter and Berwick driving for tying td,however a fumble was costly. One place you dont want to go for a playoff game is crispin field, players and fans want d2 title back this year.
Scrantons O line will struggle with Del Vals D Tackles and even double teaming them wont help.. Saw the game, not concerned, good film to make some adjustments.
Lots of talent will be on display in that Scranton/DV game. Starting with Del Val’s QB, who has already committed to Miami of Ohio.
@Ron
i not to sure that Berwick can get past A.H or Scr Prep !
Noticed there’s going to be a monster game this weekend. Scranton and Del. Valley are going toe to toe, a battle of unbeatens.
@ Ron
I hope you’re right about Berwick. I’ll be rooting for them if they meet Wood in playoffs.
Looking forward to the game of the week, Scranton v Del Val.
Ron,
You may be right. But keep in mind, Wood’s 2 losses this year are to St Joe’s and North Penn… two highly regarded AAAA teams. Berwick’s competition is nowhere near that. I know math’s transitive laws do not equate to football but I’m pretty sure both St Joe’s & NP would handily beat WVW…who dismantled Berwick.
That said, would love to see a resurgent Berwick Bulldogs.
@ KMAC:
Afraid you’re right. NP must definetly win out, and they will still need help.
Can’t remember when they didn’t make the playoffs. Has to be at least 12 years, probably more.
I know they played CB West for the D1 final in ’99, then never was out of the playoffs since, until possibly this year.
Very tough for us NP fans. One gets used to it.
@JIM
NO it was the whole frist half with Valley View having a touchtown called back just before half.
Valley View was down to a freshman tail back in the second half. agree Del Valley offence is a machine that kid is a great Q.B pluse you have to remmember Valley View has no idea how to make adjustments at the half. my whole point is Scranton has a much better o line and running back than what Del VAlley seen friday they give up 300 pluse yards to Scranton they will loose
All this football season, i have been told that archbishop wood will bash any d2 team in the state playoffs, including berwick.Then i see that wood defeated lansdale catholic 28-14. lansdale cath. is 4-3 which is just an average team. I am convinced wood is overrated this year and can be beaten by anybody in the state playoffs including berwick.
Mark d, 327 over 5 players and I think the 18 points were in the first qtr and the first half of 2nd qtr. After that it looks like Del Val was scoring at will winning by 31 and the D held VV scoreless for 3 and ahlf qtrs with 1st team D out in 3rd qtr. Not so fast, scranton’s O better watch film all week before they take that hour drive to play at Del Val.Lots of newpapers being sold this week!
Playoff chatter.
Looking at the standings for D1 4A playoffs it would appear that the usual D1 stalwart North Penn Knights (4-3) have the toughest road ahead; with Pennridge, a much-improved C B West, and Souderton still left to play. At present, I can see no equal of three tough games on any of the other 22 playoff teams either tied with the Knights (Upper Dublin) or ahead of them. Some have 2 tough games ahead, and some one. As far as projected wins this coming week I have likely 19 of the 22 teams winning also, further complicating the Knights’ task. And, in situations such as D’Town West-East, a loss to either will not dim their chances so much. If the Knights’ pull through and win all three, they will still need some help with other teams dropping games they likely would be projected to win. A D1 4A playoff without the Knights? Unheard of!
@JIM
Gave up 347 yards rushing to a at best 5-5 AAA team with a third team tail back that great defence better buckel up for Scranton !!!!
Interesting tidbit, Cocoa (Florida), the team the Prep beat in the first game of the season 16-7 beat Bergen Catholic yesterday 24-14.
That was an ugly game for sure. The crowd was amazing! Prep is the real deal and LS needs to find a running game if they hope to beat them next time. Both teams fought to the end, both sets of coaches will be sick while watching these turnovers and mistakes. I’ve watched LS for years and have never seem so many personal foul penalties…. Not disciplined enough to win a game like that. I was wrong with my pick tonight however I did pick Pennridge last night so it wasn’t a total losing weekend. Congrats to the Prep, good win!
Well-That SJP-LaSalle game was a disappointment. Hoping to see a quality game, but instead saw 14 turnovers. The only good thing was SJP winning. Knock LaSalle off their pedestal.
@phillyboy
It just wasn’t in the cards that night when Pennridge met Bensalem. That game easily could have been 35-7 at half time in favor of Pennridge, by far the superior team. Three turnovers inside the red zone, a dropped pass in the end zone and two very bad calls from the officials one resulting in a touchdown called back. That probably was a good loss Pennridge, they found out you cannot take any team for granted no matter what their record is.
Pennridge has a strong team this year. Depending on seeding they could make it to the district final. The loss to Bensalem concerns me though. How on earth did they lose that game? It’s hard to be a legitimate state contender when you lose to a team that might be 3-7 on the year.
Pennridge 21-10. Solid game all around by Pennridge. Congrats to them. Put together a solid plan to keep Adams in check and made the plays when they needed to. South had their chances, but could never really convert including at the end of the half after a turnover when they had to settle for a FG, and after putting together a solid drive after a couple of back and forths in the 3rd, Pileggi was intercepted. Class is a stud, and the other RBs are solid. Should be a good matchup between them and North Penn. Great atmosphere at Poppy Yoder.
@jerry, good points thanks for your analyst. Should be a great game.
Prep football website is streaming game. Think that s it.
No TV or radio broadcast of LaSalle vs Prep?
Also not sure what Roman team you’ve been watching. They are way down this year. Just beat Ryan 14-7 in a snoozefest.
Roman has the skill, don’t have the line to execute like they had in the past few years. I am quite sure Cocoa Florida ran a very basic offense where they tried to run outside via toss or sweep 20 times/ game. They usually have fantastic athletes but not great schemes. Playing Cocoa helps big time in that SJP has played a fast team. Gonzaga is a big time team and they run a sophisticated offense and that will help Prep prepare for LS. Hoping the LS/ Prep game lives up to the hype, however both teams KNOW they will see each other in a few weeks…
Pennridge/CB South will be a battle. Mike Class is a stud, but Pennridge has several other really good running backs, if they mix it up Pennridge has a shot. Poppy Yoder gets very loud, I believe home field advantage will play a major roll.
Sorry I gave that impression of an easy win for LS. I like the way the Prep plays as a team. Never said easy, but I would not be surprised to see LS Defense have a big night, they are that good. Prep s O is efficient but the passing game is basic in the 2 games I saw. I also said this can be a 17-7 game just as easy. I agree that LS has to be able to run better to take pressure off Kane. This will be the first time since NPenn that LS has their regular O line together I believe. Should be a great game. I love they way Moffet (26) plays the game , tough to tackle– reminds me of Tim Wade from LaSalle.
@jim
their qb isnt exactally slow i talking over all team speed Del Valley line is very big and phycial ,but Scranton has good size and their line is very quick,i only seem Del Valley on t.v but i seem Scranton live twice and believe me they are a fast overall team.Only team i seen all year that the secondary caught Valley View backs from behind,inculding Phillps before he got hurt .As they say we will know next week i think DEl Valley and Scranton will be a great great game
@Jerry, how can you say LS should win easy. Prep haven’t given up a rushing touchdown since they been back playing in PA. Also Prep creates turnovers, if Prep can contain the pass they should win. Prep 28, LS 17. Coco, Roman & gonzaga had high power offenses. Coco struggled to get that rushing TD late in the fourth quater. LS running game is not that good.
What speed does scranton have in their 1 receiver and 1 running back? Parkland has 3x that and more. scranton has not seen 5 receivers and 4 backs that a delaware valley team has this year. Del val d is as tough and game as they’ll see in D2/4/11
Yes Jimbo i think that this is the year.Scranton and Del Valley are very blanced teams this year we are seeing more teams throwing the ball around here so the fast pace style that the LVC plays wount be as much of a suprise as it been in the past.Pluse both are very very phycial teams still have that old coal football hit them hard defences.I like Scranton becuse of their speed.
@mark d, Joe actually stated what I meant to ask which was do you think D2 will finally beat an LVC team in the playoffs? I really don’t count the MVC.
Prefictions for the weekend on 2 big games:
The Rams of Pennridge Beat CB South 35-28. I think a let down may be in store for South. Pennridge can pound the ball and can throw enough to score. I love the South Offense, not sure if they can keep Class & co out of the end zone.
Explorers of LS in a 28 — 14 win. I could see LS shutting out Prep but turnovers and special teams may key a Prep score or 2. Preps offense is decent however they seem limited in the routes they are throwing plus LS has a good secondary. LS needs to be able to run the ball, if not then this could be a 17-7 game just as easy. Either way it will be crazy at PW!
@Mark D I certainly think that Del Val and Scranton will beat a D11 team in the playoffs. Will they beat an LVC team in the playoffs. Some of the D11 4A schools that will make the playoffs are terrible. Stroudsburg lost to one of the worst LVC teams earlier this year and they will be in the playoffs. There is no doubt that D2 is much better football played in the MVC. Del Val beat Parkland week 1, Parkland looks likes a different team. Unfortunately for the LVC at least one really good team will be left out of the playoffs because of the MVC. I think we will see Scranton, Easton, Parkland, and Del Val as the final 4 (If the seeding works out). Scranton and Del Val definetly have the capability to beat those 2 teams as Parkland and Easton can also do the same.
@ jIMBO
Ok you got me i going out on a limb and stateing here that a d2 team will win a playoff game against d11.I think that they wii finally be competive. Scranton & Del Valley have good looking teams this year and it not the old same 1980 offence that they run !!!!!!
@mark d, are you saying that D2 will finally beat D11?
Understood Jim i think Del Valley & Scranton are really a step above the AAA teams this year it may be d2 year to make some noise in the big school playoff.
sorry guys but I think paul likes to attack more than he does being attacked!!!!!
mark d, sorry, my comment was talking about AH scoring points at times, meaning against ranked teams such as the Del Val game. the other 5 teams they played are 7-17. AH has the talent, like to see them get into the playoffs.
Is there any reason to believe riverside viking football will play any defense at all this year?they rank up there with “MONTROSE” as one of the worst defensive football teams in division 2 . It is getting tough to watch this team make every offense they play look like the league’s best.??is it coaching or lack of heart??
@Jim i ageree AH and Berwick are safe bets as for Valley View their a 5-5 team lack of Phillps and coaching will see to that. Prep really need to beat AH this week,Prep has played 2 AA teams this season and i dont think they will have a win over a AAAA team if it comes down to point at 7-3 they may loose out.As for you commet on AH scoreing they scored at least 4 td in every game they played except the loss to Del Valley ???? they are avg 30 point a game ??
Ron,
That’s OK. McDevitt and Wood would both smash Berwick. Heck, Pottsgrove would likely beat them as well. No state title in Crispin Field this year.
@phillyboy
it was the second round
@CBSouth guy
should be a good game
As much as I want to see them run the table, I’m afraid CB South is gonna take an L this week. I give them some props for taking out North Penn last week but I suspect they’re paper tigers. I remember they pulled this a few years ago. They went undefeated 10-0, think they were the #1 seed and then proceeded to get bounced in the first round.
@brian. Nice shout out to CB South. As my title says, I’m a CB South guy. I’m surprised with the success they’ve had, but after seeing Pileggi and Josh Adams (not Harris) you can see it as a foundation and what it’s based on. But the biggest reason for the CONTINUED success from last year has been the defensive improvement. They gave up big numbers last year, but have been for the most part solid this year, with a few breakdowns. I agree that the Pennridge game this week (@ Pennridge’s Poppy Yoder field) is going to be tough. Mike Class is a stud and Pennridge is solid all around. Should be a good game and hopefully CB South doesn’t let down after the emotional win last week.
Sorry. Posted Oct. 3rd, 2012. Again see you in Hershey!
@Brian
Please refer to post 73 in this blog. See you in Hershey!
to mark D, in D2 – Berwick & AH are safe bets, not sold on VV as they are and will struggle against the AAAA teams. AH has some issue on scoring points at times.
@ Jim B if prep and comets both lose, that will give #1 seed to berwick.If dallas makes the #4 seed, they have to go back to crispin field where they got bashed 50-14. better hope for ec playoffs.
OK–I needed to get off the LS bandwagon and make note of some special players in the area that I have seen. The QB (Pileggi) from CB South and the RB (Josh Harris) are having incredible seasons! They are doing it against the top dogs now which makes it even more special. Pileggi has been a true field general, a great leader. Harris is a beast with a huge upside. I am so impressed that CB South is able to keep piling up the same numbers even after graduating a BCS QB (Johns) and an FCS RB(Brown). Rackovan seems like a good guy and I wish them all the best throughout the playoffs. If their defense can hold up I like them going pretty far this year although I have a weird feeling about the Pennridge game–thinking it could be a let down for South after N Penn. Not sure where they play this one –I’m going with the home team.
Jerry, since Paul wants specifics let me help you out…It was PFP who said all summer long that Jimmy Herron would be QB this year and young RB Meachum would have Rahman like numbers.
Paul-Again, please enjoy these young guys and let them carve out their own careers. Meachum is the back up to Herman right now and he will be a very good HS player. To get to Rahman #’s you have to be talented and real durable–many good RB’s can run for 1,000 yds–it’s the special one’s who climb to 1500 plus yds. You are witnessing incredible accuracy and efficiency with Kane and probably the best sophomore(at LS) receiving year by Herron when it’s all said and done. IMO League seems to be down as Judge, Ryan & Roman are not as tough as they have been in the past. Prep or LS will definitely be in the Eastern Final this year. Paul, seems like you are on edge…chill out and enjoy this great american game being played by kids. These kids do read this stuff and they would rather their fans (parents)stay humble and quiet like their coaches when it comes to LS personnel and such. Not looking to keep boring everyone else on the thread with LS stuff. Sorry
@jimbo, got me there. Don’t I feel silly. You have only 2 or 3 comments out of the last 150 or so. Thank you for saving it for me!
@ Jerry
“It was one of you guys…” Well thanks for narrowing it done there Jerry.
@Jim
i agree that why i said that one of thouse teams will end up 7-3,lot of football to play.Who do all you d2 guys like in AA looks like 6 teams are still really in the hunt even for the top seed
Jim B, you are right. Dallas needs to beat Crestwood…and they definitely needs Coughlin to be Crestwood too.
@jive, make a fool of yourself much?
If you want to get on people for their use of the English language it would serve you well to know the difference between breath and breathe.
@Jim B
Agreed. It should be an exciting last half of High School Football.
Rollie,
I agree, Dallas has a chance to win all four of their remaining games, but, that still may not be enought to get them into the playoffs.
Paul, as I mentioned it was from another site. Look, I am a very objective football fan, certainly not a homer. I have read these posts for several years and when it comes to LS, you and another guy (fbfan) try and come off as an insider. It was one of you guys who had the WR (3) playing QB and mentioned a Soph RB (23) as the next coming of a 2 time all state RB . It seems you were wrong, by a lot. I think most of the LS community feel blessed to be part of something special for this past few years. The coaches know what they are doing, all of them. Wishing both the Prep and LS players good luck and more importantly good health.
@ Brian
Please check this entire blog and thread. Where do I comment on the coaching staff and Magarity?
Mark D, AH will get crushed by Scranton and Prep will get crushed by Delaware Valley, sorry, no upset there unless major injuries…
Its very possible Dallas runs the table from here. Dallas’ remaining remaining schedule is the easiest of them, Coughlin and Crestwood.
10/12 @Hazleton – Highly likely W
10/19 @Crestwood – Toss Up
10/26 @Tunkhannock – Highly likely W
11/03 Lake-Lehman – Likely W
Explorer, please let your LS grad child post for you. Can you say punctuation? How about run on sentence? Take a breathe there buddy. Keep running all over with them sentences and you’ll get a hole in the bottom of your hush puppies.
Hey Guys, Here is some input from a LS grad & parent who knows a few of the coaches very well. I played with some of them as well. Paul from Philly, Just sit back and enjoy a well executed game plan by high school players who bought in to a system a few years ago. It is a system that works with 3 or 4 star players yet can thrive with a bunch of 2 star players. I am not here to bash you as I know your son very well–who was a very nice HS player. I would caution you against divisive language regarding any player or coach involved in the program. These guys are all about the W’s and these coaches have no egos. You seem to be rough on the OC & QB from the last year but if you knew the coaches (including both Bret & Drew Gordon) you would come to know the high regard they have for that OC and the contributions he added to that program over the years. The ’11 Team went as far as it could with the injuries sustained. It also wasn’t QB fault that Coleman & Tom S were hurt, these things happen. If you ask Kane who was the better QB coming out of camp last year, I think he would’ve voted for Magarity too. I know for a fact (he told me) coach Gordon said that Magarity looked as good as any QB had coming out of camp. The fact that Matt threw for 26 TD’s plus rushed for over 500 yds in one season is a feat NO ONE has accomplished in the history of LS football bears that out. These are kids and don’t let an Eastern Final loss diminish the accomplishments of a super kid and a bunch of Seniors that were not given much chance to win by those outside & some nside the program. I think LS does things the right way with kids who come to the school to be students first and I don’t want that clouded with any bs on the internet.
Mark
Can we just agree that a lot needs to happen for Dallas to get in the playoffs? They need to win all their remaining games, which won’t be easy, and have a few other teams ahead of them lose.
@Philly Public
He is NOT a typical LaSalle parent..please
@Paul
Sorry I didn’t give the proper person credit, but you are one of the reasons why the LS parents are looked upon like this. The Prep coaches were in the stands. I even watched them on Saturday when they were filming the Judge game and they just shook their heads every time LS scored. My son has been on all those team too except the Championship team when he was a freshman. Drew knows who I am so maybe he chooses not to know you for a good reason. And you don’t pay tuition anymore…..You’re the one who said Joe Wade was calling the plays against North Allegheny….yes I pay attention to what is written on these boards but have never felt compelled to write anything because all that matters is what happens on the field and not what people say or think on this board but after reading comment after comment that you write I couldn’t take it anymore. The LS parents I hang with couldn’t be nicer and we all want to see our kids do well, but never does anyone I know say anything derogatory about any other school, kid, coach, etc. It’s a shame you plaster all your stuff all over the place and we have to be associated with it.
If Dallas wins out they will move ahead of both Coughlin & Crestwood on points. Dallas would have to win all of their remaining games and Crestwood would need to lose to Coughlin.
Due to Crestwood’s weak schedule the teams they beat will not provide enough points to beat out Dallas or Coughlin.
If Coughlin beats Crestwood they will also move ahead of Crestwood, however they will not be able to catch Dallas due to the head to head loss.
Typical LaSalle. “My boy did this”, “my daughter did that”, “My son played both ways,” I also have a daughter at THE Mount” (can you sound any more pretentious) “I have two daughters at the Mount”, “I have an iPhone.” You both want be the big swingin d, and you do it on a public board? Meanwhile you’ll be standing next to each other at the game on Saturday in little Junior’s jersey sipping wine with your pinkies out, singing “Boola boola”. Maybe this is why people find LS parents arrogant?
@ Go Explorers
So you were in the booth while Prep was filming the game? Or were they in the stands filming with their I phone? So you’re saying that you and Jerry know the inner workings? By the way it was me who posted the game in November would mean a whole lot more, not Jerry. So give me a little credit.
@ Jerry
I pay the tuition right? So I can have an opinion right? You think Drew Gordon cares a lick about what my opinion is? My son was on 3 PCL, City, and District 12 championship teams, along with the State Championship team starting both ways and Drew Gordon wouldn’t know who I was if you hit him over the head with me.
Jerry, I couldn’t agree with you more. Paul runs his mouth and leaves a bad impression. Not indicative of all the parents I’ve spent the last four years with watching this team and coaching staff. YOUR statements are completely accurate. Here’s a fact for those interested in this week’s game: Prep coaches overheard while filming LaSalle’s game against Malvern “We’ve got our hands full”. I hope it’s a great game on Saturday but as you said then one on Nov 9th will mean a whole lot more.
@ Jerry
One son on the Championship team, another on another State Championship team. With that, where have I posted that I know about their inner workings. I just watch the games and then have an opinion. Just like everyone else on this board. I had a daughter at the Mount too. Want to know about the inner workings of the Crew team? Ask the coach, all I have is an opinion.
Paul from Philly . Notice you on another website and felt compelled to send you a note. As a LS parent of 3 boys and a daughter at the Mount, I know several key members of LS faculty and staff. I’ve been around the football and baseball programs for 10 years. You put out a lot of information as a LS insider when in fact you know very little about the inner workings of their programs. The men who run these teams are very quiet and humble and they work together. They all share in the success of their system. From the mouths of their coaches, ’08 Disgusting ending, ’09 Fulfilled destiny , ’10 exceeded expectations in getting all the way back to finals after graduating 30 seniors ’11 was favorite team by many of staff as team was not picked to win the PCL plus so many new starters on team plus best camaraderie , ’12 Big Team, Fastest defense ever, quickest receiver combo ever, smart QB whom listens well,slight concern over running game as
weather changes. Should improve as health of O Line improves. DB s are best in state as a group.
@Ron – Dallas’ schedule was front loaded with tough teams. I think they run the table if they beat Crestwood ( which would not be an upset, that’s a pick-em game). Coughlin already lost to Dallas and their remaining schedule is much tougher with Crestwood and Berwick. Out of the Berwick, Coughlin, Crestwood and Dallas, the only team I see possibly going anywhere is Berwick and that is mainly because D4/D11 is a bit light this year. I can’t see any of them touching Prep, AH or VV for that matter. Lackawanna seems to be tougher than the WVC. IMO, their A teams probably beat the AAA WVC teams.
@fred, at this point in the season, if anyone has SJP ranked higher than LaSalle you can just dismiss their rankings.
Rob,
A win is a win. Crestood is 5-1, and Dallas is 3-3. Dallas may in fact be the better team, but the better team doesn’t always win, or even make the playoffs. Like I said, there are just too many teams for Dallas to jump over to make districts. But they should make the EC playoffs.
“Dallas has to be considered a long shot (for districts) unless a whole lot falls its way.”
quote from Steve Benneett of the Wilkes-Barre Citizens Voice
@ Jim B
I am not sure about the w.v.c teams but up here Valley View and West Scranton are 5-5 at best 6-4 teams,their match up will probaly decide that.Eiher Abington or Prep will end up at 7-3 they play each other and Abington Still has Scranton and Prep Del Valley which would be huge upsets.Looks like their could be 4
teams at 7-3 for two playoff spots !!!!!
Prep/La Salle should be a good one but it doesn’t matter really. The one that matters is in the playoffs, where these two will surely end up.
@pcl proud
Don’t think it is on TV or radio. Prepfootball.org has a live stream for their games.
I am unable to attend the Prep vs LaSalle game on Saturday night so does anyone know if it will broadcast on TV or radio?
Although I’m not a LaSalle fan, I must say they are very efficient. A while back someone mentioned that they have success despite not having a plethora of division 1 players or blue chip recruits. I tend to agree with that. I’ve noticed something about them that’s telling. During the pregame warm-ups the receivers run very crisp routes and they rarely drop a ball. That mentality tends to carry over into the game.
After week 6 in d2 AAA. these 4 teams will be in the playoffs Berwick #1,Scranton Prep #2, Abington Heights #3, WB Coughlin #4. Crestwood and Dallas fight it out for ec playoffs.
I think La salle takes over Preps spot in the Max Preps rankings next week
*Max Preps*
I see here “The Prep” is ranked 7th in the state and MacLeod has them ranked #1 in the state and 17th nationally…big difference.
CB South got a well deserved win against North Penn.
CB South has another test ahead of them as they face Mike Class and the Pennridge Rams. Pennridge is playing hot and a win for them can change some things in the league. Should be another interesting week in the SOL Continental!
paul from philly, PIAA needs to be objective and ensure as many leagues/games as possible are fair and balanced. Cycles occur in a particular class being loaded with talent…, but if a private/catholic keeps the recruiting machine going, it’s just not fair. We all want the best teams in the playoffs playing teams in similar settings.
Jim B….Crestwood once again squeaked by another terrible team for the second weak in a row. First it was Tunkhannock and now Hazleton, one of the worst 4a teams in the state. Dallas is going to finish 7-3 and looking at Crestwoods schedule they should finish 7-3 too. That is why they are going to be discussed when playoffs come. I know you don’t think they are that good but they are still a talented team.
i take my comment back i read the prediction not the actual final score
Seeing that prep/wood score i got to pick la salle next week by a touchdown.
CBSouth with a comeback for the ages tonite at North Penn. Down 23-7 at the half and looked like they had no answer for NP. NP missed two extra points. South had a couple big stops, and converted a 2 point conversion at 29-27 to tie it up. South holds with 4 minutes to go, and scores with about a minute to go to win 36-29. Adams with a 90 yd kick off return for a TD, but that’s it. John Pileggi carved up NP w 4 TD passes in the 2nd half. Great game-especially coming out on the positive side of it.
@ Buddy
Again, I totally agree it affects the playing field but those are the rules. Your problem is with the PIAA, not the PCL or other private schools.
@ Buddy
Again I totally agree it does affect the playing field but your problem is with the PIAA, not the PCL. Tell them to change the rules.
@paul from philly:
No boundaries does affect the playing field.
Your sarcasism notwithstanding.
@ paul from philly
Just a side point; you mention that no PCL team has their own stadium. I always wondered,’why on earth not’? You mean to tell me with all the money the archdiocese has had and all the moneyed alumni out there they couldn’t manage to at least build one communal site in the last 100 years or so?? That’s weak. This isn’t Lancaster or Reading where there’s one lone Catholic high school. There are still several, but there were a lot more in the past. They couldn’t justify building one doggone stadium in the second largest city on the east coast. I never understood that.
Mark,
Right now Dallas doesn’t even belong in the playoff conversation. Lets see how they handle Pittston tomorrow.
Mark,
Dallas has no chance. It’s crazy to think that just because Dallas has now won two straight games (after an 0-3 start), they are suddenly a playoff contender. They only managed to score 10 points against Coughlin, and they beat an 0-5 team. Again, not at all impressive.
Also, of those teams you mentioned, maybe they do have “easier” schedules on paper, but Crestwood has a two game lead on Dallas, so does Prep, Abington, Valley View, and Berwick. West Scranton and Coughlin both have a one game lead. Dallas would have to jump over four teams, two of which are currently 4-1. Sorry, but that’s just two many teams to jump over, even if they do win out.
@Buddy and Kevin
No district boundaries is an argument for the PIAA. Right now the rules state it’s OK so give that one up until they change the rules. I just don’t get your money point. Upper Dublin just built a sports center and theatre that would rival colleges. CB South same thing. North Penn a huge redevelopment program costing millions. Name a PCL team with their own stadium, their own pools, their own weight rooms (LS and Prep have their own weight rooms but the rest?) Why are you so worked up about money. It’s not yours so you shouldn’t care how or why a parent sends their kids to a certain school. It’s like getting pissed off at Ryan Howard because of his contract. It’s not your money so why should you care. Take the chip off your shoulder, it’s weighing you down.
@Jim B
Abington is the only AAA L.F.C team that does not have a AA team on it schedule,West Scranton actually has a A school on theirs. I havernt see dallas play so as their chances of winning the next 5 games i dont know ,but by the numbers of all the top AAA teams only Crestwood has an easier schedule Valley View games left teams are 16-9 same for Abington,Prep 18-7, coughlin 13-12,
Dallas 12-13 and Crestwood 7-18 .So if they can win out they very well might be in the mix and like i said i only looking at the numbers.Over all i think that the L.F.C is stronger this year than W.V.C
@ paul:
Right. At the big boy schools, it is a year round sport . However, some schools have a lot more $ and also NO district boundaries.
Wheather you wanna believe it or not, that’s a big deal.
Yo paulie from philly, read what I wrote vs what you hear in your mind.The proliferation of year round travel baseball teams, speed & agility schools, weight training gyms starting with kids around 10years old+ supplement a schools in/off season program. I do business with private/catholic schools and the names in the registers at the front desk are full of IVY/Patriot & top academic private school recruiters. My point is the smart parents who have money know their kids future is going to a good school for the education first vs. going to play a sport first. If they are good enough to play at the next level, they get their cake and eat it too!
I took mt. Carmel in the pick’em
@Kevin
So no public school kids attend these camps? Please! Must be awful small camps Frankford’s QB comes to mind but that’s beside the point. At really good football programs such as La Salle, Prep, North Penn, Neshaminy, Easton there is no off season. Once the regular season is over, training and weightlifting starts year round at the school, not at camps. It’s more to do with the program. And anyone who knows about HS football knows that to be the case. Stop it with the privilege and background BS
********DISTRICT 4 UPSET’S????******
MOUNT CARMEL UPSETS CENTRAL 28-24
BLOOMSBURG BEATS MUNCY 35-31
Dallas has no chance guys. They have seven teams ahead of them in the D2 AAA race. Plus three more teams with identical 2-3 records. That’s too many teams to jump.
Besides, what has Dallas actually done to give you guys the impression they can win their last five games? Their offense scored 10 points on Coughlin. Then, they beat a winless Willamsport team. To me, that’s not very impressive. You claim Crestwood squeaked past a few teams? Well, Dallas barely beat Coughlin. In fact, I saw the game, and Coughlin beat themselves. Coughlin had at least four turnovers, including a fumble on the Dallas 15 yard line, and an interception returned for a touchdown.
Look at the schedules. Berwick is 4-1 and a lock to make districts. So now look at Crestwood, they are also 4-1 (two game lead on Dallas) and they still have to play 1-4 Hazleton, 1-4 Pocono Mt West, and 0-5 Williamsport. It’s going to be very hard for Dallas to jump Crestwood, even if Dallas beats them head to head.
Then you have Coughlin, who still could go 7-3. And you have to take into account that IF Dallas beats Lehman, Lehman is only a AA school. Coughlin, Berwick, and all of the LCF schools don’t play any AA teams. I would say if Dallas and any of those schools finish with the same record, Dallas won’t have the won’t have enough points.
RickD
Crestwood may be 4-1 but they’ve beaten crappy teams by slim margins. Lehman is alright but plays in weak conference and has absoluetely no passing game. Pittston has Houseman back but that still might not be enough and Hazleton and Tunkhannock are terrible. Dallas has talent (not coaching) to beat all the remaining teams left on their scheudle
If they get the sophomore WR back I don’t see anyone beating them. Not because Dallas is a great team, but because they have a soft scheule
To paul from philly, kids with money go to specialized football camps, wt lifting gyms as well as Speed and agility schools… Year round for one. They also get advice from these coaches on learning the game at a higher level.
You guys are killing me with all this Dallas talk! Beat Crestwood and LL by at least 2 TDs?? They have only scored more than 2 TDs in a single game themselves ONCE all season!! They have no running game at all, which is a joke because they have one of the better offensive lines in the area. Roccograndi had a big game against Williamsport last week but so would a Pee Wee TB! They have terrible play-calling on offense. Simonovich looks slow and tired. I would not be surprised if they lose to Pittston, Crestwood, Hazleton and LL!
Which one of you guys told me they would have a better team this year compared to the last 3 years? Maybe coaching does matter??
@Philly Public Loyal
How do privilege and background translate into competitive advantages on the playing field. I thought football was about blocking and tackling. You have a problem with the PIAA about a level playing field so take it to them. La Salle and the other recruiting giants play by the rules set forth by the PIAA. “Privilege and background”? Stay on topic-football!
@Jim B
Jim, are you sure. Dallas has to play Crestwood. If they beat them and Crestwood loses to Coughlin, then Dallas, Crestwood, and Coughlin all finish 7-3. That factored in Dallas would get all of those team wins from the other two. I think they have a chance. Of course they still have to win all of their games. Should be an exciting 2nd half.
@Jim B
As the man says not so fast my friend!All the AAA L.F.C teams still have to play each other pluse a game with either Scranton or Del Valley one or 2 of thouse teams could end up 6-4 or 5-5 if Dallas could win out they still might have a chance to sneek in
@ philly
ok i hear you dont know what it like in your area but believe me a lot of people around here have to be reminded and believe me i no where near a bleeding heart
My comments re LaSalle are based on direct interactions with parents and grads. I have had literally NONE with SJP folks and not in a position to comment.
…and it IS about football because the priviledge and backgrounds these kids come from put them in advantaged positions that the majority of Public League, Public and PCL schools don’t have. These favorabilities translate into competitive advantages on the playing field.
I picked the Prep game because that is likely the only game where there is a level playing field. And if my experiences sitting on the Prep side of the field lead me to develop a similar perspective to the one I’ve developed re LaSalle, I’ll speak that as well.
@Paul from Philly Really? You want to compare the Public facilities and equipment to LaSalle based on the fact that LaSalle rents a stadium? As they say, ‘Child, please’. Take that argument to MOST of the Public schools and try not to get laughed at in these times of rising taxes and budget cuts, program cutbacks, teacher layoffs.
@ philly Pub
You made some really well thought out points regarding privieged and underprivilege. Tuition at LaSalle is $18,700 per year. In Philly you can send a child to most Catholic high schools for around $23,000 for all four years. I thought it to be very funny that you picked the Prep game for them boys at LaSalle to be humbled. Prep tuition is $19,275 per year. Perhaps a better example would have been in 2008 when Washington ($0 tuition) beat LaSalle in the D12 championship. Your analogy was so off base in using Prep. The kid at Preps dad isn’t a surgeon, he owns the hospital.
No way Dallas gets in. None. Only four teams make the d2 AAA playoffs. Berwick and Crestwood are both 4-1, and locks from the WVC (look at their remaining schedules), plus Coughlin should finish 7-3. Add in the LFC teams, like Abinton, West Scranton, Prep, Valley View, and Dallas has no chance.
@mark
Dallas should sneak in. The only tough games I see are Crestwood and maybe LL. Regardless, they should win both by at least 2 TDS
@ phillyboy:
Agreed. He missed his calling, should have been a minister ( maybe he is).
@ Philly Public:
Agreed.
It’s simply a matter of yuppies vs blue collar.
I jus happen to be blue collar
@Philly Public Loyal
You might want to check who you’re rooting for in the SJP LS game. Did you know that most of City Council and the Mayor of Philadelphia are from SJP? Just sayin’.
@Philly Public Loyal
The playing field is not level. Take it to the PIAA. But if you want to talk money, who has all the nice stadiums and equipment? The pubs. With tax payers money. La Salle has to rent PWs stadium. When did it come up on this thread about “His father is a doctor”?
Kid’s fathers are not doctors in the Public league?
I know of one kid who’s going to Harvard. Coleman is going there for Lacrosse. Still don’t know if that was mentioned on this thread, but so what. No other kid has been mentioned on here making good and moving on to the college level? When was it mentioned on here that “his brother goes to Yale”? I think your personal experiences are creeping in where they don’t need to be. Stick with the topic-football.
Does Dallas have a chance to get into District playoffs if they win out? Going by the point system and looking at WVC schedule it looks like they do. Any thoughts?
@ mark d
How many times are you going to say “And remember these are kids we are talking about”? Will you quit it with your bleeding heart baloney. Yes, we know they are kids. We respect their efforts. I consider it the highest level of ball that still maintains some integrity and wholesomeness. Now, can we talk some ball or would you rather get together and hold hands and commiserate?
Have to jump in on this one.
Arrogance: “An offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride.” Key words: “Offensive”, “Self-importance”, “overbearing”. If it were JUST boasting that would be tolerable. But, nearly every conversation with anybody associated with LaSalle is arrogant. “That kid is going to Harvard.” “This Kid’s brother went to Yale.” “His Father is a Surgeon”. Blah, blah, blah. Haven’t even brought up the recruiting element. You take it back to winning. But what is the source and the foundation of the winning? Is it the unlimited resources? The Money? The pool of kids? The playing field isn’t level. Yes, Wood is doing the same thing, but there is a little more humility to their recent success. We’ll see if that continues, but I’ll be at the SJP-LaSalle game cheering for a LaSalle humbling
@CBSouth
Arrogance is a tough word. Arrogance, boasting whatever you want to call it comes from winning. And that’s what La Salle has done the last few years. And La Salle is a better team then they were last year, just with Brett Gordan calling the plays again. Now you add Kane and Herron to the skill positions, well that a nice step up too. And by the way, I don’t think Steinmetz’ defense doesn’t get pounded by anyone. Now that’s not boasting or arrogant. That’s fact. All in all it should be a hellava game!!
Guys how many d1 kids you can put on a field is not what High School football is all about ,it about heart.My game of the week is Susquehanna & Holy Cross,Holy cross had to forfeit to Dunmore last week becuse it could only dress 14 kids and is 0-5 Susquehanna is 1-4 losing by an avg of 20 point a game.Yet these kid play thier hearts out every week and show up to practice every day just for that chance to play, even thought they know they be on the losing end usally by a lopsided score. Now thay have a game where each knows it has a chance to win !!! that what the game is all about heart let give a hand to all the Holy Cross and Susquehanna kids evey where.And remember these are kids were talking about.
@
josh
I think you will see a great game,lots of kids on Prep from abington it be a head knocker
I agree that SJP will throttle Wood. Have seen both play and think that Wood is still living off a little of last years results. Based on what SJP did to NP, don’t think its going to be close
As for ” feeling my oats”… Not really. I don’t think that one game in the west should diminish another in the east. And of the 2 match ups here in the east, I think that CBS-NP is a better overall game than SJP-AW with larger 4a implications. My initial post just pointed out that it is the eastern PA version. Next weeks LaSalle-SJP game is a better matchup than either of this weeks games Eastern games. And my HOPE (not prediction) is SJP pounds LaSalle. Too much LaSalle arrogance in his area.
Let’s all enjoy ALL the games!?!?
Josh, CBSouth guy is just feeling his oats; the best game in the east this weekend is A Wood – Prep. NP has already been proven to be a fraud.
@ CB South:
Easy there big guy. Josh was just expressing his opinion about big games. In this case, he happens to be right.
@ paul:
You really think so? I see SJP dismanteling Wood.
@Paul
Do you really think Wood vs Prep is going to be a good game? I am going to watch form first to final whistle for sure. Just to see Wood lose by 40.
CB South,
I did read your entire post, and I stand by my statement and opinion that I posted. We simply don’t agree – but that doesn’t mean I have to get over myself. Sometimes, I just love stoking a debate and throwing a few more coals on the fire.
Mark D,
I’m planning to attend the Abington Heights/Scranton Prep game Week 7 in Clarks Summit. I’ve had that game circled as one I wanted to attend and cover since June.
@Josh
You dodn’t need d1 kids in the game for a great high school football game. all you need is two teams hungery to win who dont like each other.Want to see a great game come to the Valley View Abington Heights game,two year ago the frist play the tackel was so hard it broke the running back shoulder pads!!!!!
@Buddy and Philly
The Wood-Prep game is being televised this weekend on Comcast. That should be a good one!!
Easy there Josh… Just pointing out that in the east, for this week, this is the best matchup. If you would have read the entire post, I did call out the the SJP-LaSalle game the following week. I’m a CBSouth guy, but hopefully if you are reading my comments, you realize I’m not claiming to be the center of the PA HS football universe. You can now get over yourself.
Easy there Josh… Just pointing out that in the east, for this week, this is the best matchup. If you would have read the entire post, I did call out the the SJP-LaSalle game the following week. I’m a CBSouth guy, but hopefully if you are reading my comments, but claiming to be enter of the PA HS football universe. You can now get over yourself.
I’m afraid Funk is right.
This game is bigger for NP then CBS. I think NP will beat them without too much trouble.
Then NP will run the table ( beating both Pennridge & Souderton in the process).
They will make the playoffs, but that’s where the buck stops.
They won’t get far enough in the playoffs to avenge any lose to the PCL teams.
Just so someone beats whatever PCL team makes it to the final, that’s the most important thing.
Of course Easton might do that for us.
CB South guy,
Sorry, NP-CBS is a good game, but not in the same caliber as NA-Gateway. The NA-Gateway game will feature 8 future Division-1 prospects (NA – Mack Leftwich, Pat Kugler, Elijah Zeise; Gateway – Tommy Woodson, Jaymar Parrish, Montae Nicholson, Ricky Rogers & Brenon Thrift). I guarantee you there aren’t a combined 8 D-1 recruits in the NP-CBS game, nor is that game regarded as a potential preview of the D1 AAAA final, whereas NA and Gateway could both very well meet up again at Heinz Field in Week 13. The Eastern PA game which most closely resembles NA-Gateway is the SJP-LaSalle showdown in Week 7.
NPenn-CBSouth would probably be the Eastern PA version of that N allegheny/Gateway matchup. NPenn has two losses, both against top 10 state, PCL teams, nothing to sneeze at, and South, while undefeated, still needs to beat a big boy to be validated. CBS has only beaten NPenn once in their History. Next week has LaSalle/STJoesPrep, so some good football coming up over the next couple weeks.
@philly:
That’s for sure. That probably trumps any match-ups we have here in the East for this week.
That game might just be televised.
This weekend there’s a pretty big one out west. North Allegheny and Gateway are going toe to toe, a battle of undefeateds.
Prep defense has been dominate, they shut Down a national rank running back coco, one of the top wide receivers in PA, only way I see Lasalle winning this game their offensive line has to be dominate.
@Buddy
LaSalle v Prep should be a great one, I think its too close to call, maybe a slight edge to Prep but Qb Chris Kane has looked dominant and so has the defense
Let’s just call it ” THE CLASH”
In 2 weeks, LaSalle vs SJ Prep
Even though I’m not a PCL fan, that game is worth catching.
Daquan Bohannan 328 passing yds, 5 passing tds
Shameek Carter 11 catches, 208 yds, 3 tds
Who are some of the top performers from Week 5?
Rushing
374 yds – Colin McDermott – Allentown Central Catholic
362 yds – Lucas Klingerman – Mount Carmel Area
277 yds – Adam Geiger – Trinity
252 yds – Chris Geiss – Great Valley
241 yds – Noah Huff – Towanda
Passing
291 yds – Michael Shuster – Camp Hill
266 yds – Mike Boguski – Trinity
256 yds – Andrew Ford – Cedar Cliff
252 yds – Zack Bradley – Catasauqua
233 yds – Nick Cook – Northampton
Receiving
184 yds – Deshawn Williams – Camp Hill
156 yds – Danny Jackson – Trinity
140 yds – Alex Parker – Catasauqua
128 yds – Ryan Hubley – Oxford Area
128 yds – Kellen Williams – Chambersburg
Wow big wins for Scranton ,Del Valley and Old Forge.The cream is rising to to the top
AAAA Scranton & Del Vslley will probaly make the 2-4-11 sub regional
AAA lot of teams at 4-1 at the mid point
AA stil a ton of teams in the race
A Old Forge look like the team to beat
@CBSouth guy
Adams had 199 yards with 4 TDs.
@Buddy
South plays Pennridge after North Penn. Hoping that South doesn’t overlook North Penn and takes everything week by week.
BIG GAME NEXT WEEK @ NORTH PENN!
Should be a terrific game with both squads playing hot. The big question is if South can stop North Penn’s not fancy, but efficient offense. Also North Penn bolsters in my opinion one of the most disciplined and fastest defenses in the state, so South offense needs to execute on or North Penn is going to win it.
South 44-28 win was solid but not spectacular. Gave up a long KO return right before the half to make it 28-21 at half and keep Souderton in it but kept Souderton at arms length all night. Adams with another big night despite Souderton crashing the box the whole 2nd half. He probably had 225 (?) with 4 tds. At North Penn next week is a big one.
It doesn’t end for CB South this week either. Thay play at NP next week. That’s a big game for both schools. That will make or break NP’s season. If NP can win that ( a big if), then I think they will run the table, if not , they won’t make the playoffs.
South is in a little better situation. They have no loses as of yet. They should still make the playoffs even with a lose to NP. Of course, if they lose to Souderton, they would be on the bubble.
@ jive turkey
well said to often we forget that these are 14-18 year old KIDS
Last years CBS Souderton game was a classic. Souderton put on long drives, while South would score with big plays. Souderton held on for a tight win. South’s defense looks better than last year but lost Johns and Brown, but are stil putting up points, albeit vs teams that haven’t really done anything. Should be a good matchup.
Big game in Suburban 1, Souderton vs CB South Should be a good one, going with Souderton in an upset win.
High School is the four years where boys turn into men. For most of these children this is the time where their path in life will start, or end. I really had to kick myself today, take a step back, and think about what’s important about HS football. THE KIDS! Let’s all not forget that these boys go to school for an education first. Football is a privilege for the student athlete. Sure, I love going to the games and look forward to the banter on this site. 99.9% of these kids will not make a nickle playing football. We as fathers, mothers, mentors, coaches, and frinds have a huge responsibility making sure these boys get their education first.
La Salle ranked 24th in the USA Today top 25.
Up here in d2 lots of big games
Old Forge @ Riverside match up of state ranked A teams and always one of the most intense games of the year
In AA everyone is still a contender, every game a big one
AAA @ AAAA Scranton @ Valley View match up of 4-0 teams. also Del valley at West Scranton match up of 4-0 and a 3-1 teams
Next 5 weeks all the front runners play each other time for some real exciting football.
P.S belive it or not were actually throwing the ball around here !!!!!!
@jiveturkey
I play for them that’s how I know so everything that I say is dead but yea let me clear up what I said when i mean every’s body is coming back we have about 5 leaving that’s all but our team will still be a solid team next.
@????
When you say really we have every one coming back, I assume you have a pretty strong interest in Imhotep. I don’t have the hands on insight that you do, however, a quick look tells me a few things. Leading rusher is Young and the second leading rusher is Williams. Young is also the leading receiver. ESPN has Williams as the best back in the State. These two are also tied for the team lead in scoring, with each other. These two are Seniors! Is there some kind of deal with the PIAA that is going to allow them to play a 5th year? If such a deal is not in place “so really we have everyone coming back” is one of the greatest comments I’ve ever seen on this site.
@phillyboy,
I’m pretty sure Oak Hill is in Virginia. Not positive, but I remember seeing some show about it being in the mountains, in the middle of nowhere. Your point, though, was dead on. These kids went to Imhotep to play football, and only to play football, for last years offensive coach at West. The recruiting here rivals anything Wood has pulled off in years. I honestly don’t care what kind of team he builds. Problem is, if you build what you believe to be a powerhouse, why play a JV schedule?
@jack12
Imhotep has plenty of talent in the 2014 and 2015 class they have all their line men returning next year and one db leaves and a DT we still have crazy speed returning with #20 and #25 in the back field one wide out leaves #23 is a sophomore he returning and the QB #4 is coming back so really we have every one coming back
@ jim
That’s a good point. I enjoy following high school ball but if it gets too sophisticated at some point it can take on a life of its own. To use an extreme example to illustrate the point, one can look at Oak Hill Academy in N.C. In my opinion, it’s a joke. It’s not a high school with a basketball team but rather an all-star basketball team with a high school. Locally, there was recently a school in Aston, Pa. called Amereican Christian. They recruited Tyreke Evans to play there. They were a flash in the pan. In fact, I think they’re out of existence now. A side note to that: If Tyreke Evans wasn’t recruited to play there then he probably would have played for a Chester team that was 3rd in the nation his senior year. If he had played on that team, who knows, Chester might have been the #1 team in the nation that year.
jack12 go look at Imhoteps website and search through it. There are many flags that go up.
BIG match up Fri 9/28 in PAC 10. Sring – Ford @ Pottsgrove. Pottsgrove was Last years District 1
AAA champion. Spring -Ford was defending PAC 10 champion and expected to make big push in AAAA playoffs this year. SF won last year 49 -35 @ HOME
Playing @ Pottsgrove is tough road game. Ge there early as this one will be crowded.
@jim I agree with you 100% but I’m pretty sure that they put education first especially because no program wants to get labeled as just being concerned with an athletes athletics and not what they will need in the long run which is an education.
What Imhotep stands for as a school is a complete disgrace. That is by no means any fault of the football team. Hopefully next season they will put a decent team on their non-league schedule and we can see how good they are, or are not. It is very hard to judge how good a team is when they play the type of schedule that Imhotep plays. I’m sure their coach knows what he has in his younger players, and will schedule games accordingly next year.
to Jack, the most important thing at the end of the day is are schools graduating young men to go on to the next phase in life. How many good/great athletes in all sports are not focused on the education side of the equation and just drift off into the night after HS or lower tier college program. We must never let HS kids be pawns in the world of HS/College/Pro sports where one day you’re Cy Young and the next day you’re Sayonara.
I’m not too familiar with the school and it’s mission but Imhotep has a great Soph RB, Soph QB and will return all but one offensive line player. On the defensive of side their secondary has two talented Juniors Safeties a load of young linebackers and a dominating junior DT. I believe they are the deepest far as juniors and Soph
@Jack,
Imhotep QB is 2015, their 2 main guys are both seniors. Comparing them to other good D12 teams I don’t think they have any advantage with their underclassmen. Prep RB’s and QB So’s & Jr’s. O’hara same, Ryan same. Roman RB’s So’s and a Jr, Judge same. Wood Fr QB and Jr RB. West is very young. All of these teams fairly deep with young linemen also. Only senior loaded team I could find was LaSalee, however, they always have kids waiting their turn. That said, I think they will dominate AA Pub through the next few years.
Jack12, with out a doubt, an outstanding group of ball players. The school and mission are suspect though. Look at their website.
Imhotep has some of the best 2014 and 2015 talent their really young and deep anyone agree?
Going to be intersting to see Western Wayne defence in 2 weeks faceing Riverside high power offence !!!!
seen highlites of D-town East/Coatesville. Always an intense rivalry. Throw out the records or rankings when those two play.
Did anybody see the Downingtown East/Coatesville game? Heard D. East scored a last second touch down to win by 1 point. Must have been intense.
2 weeks away from Ridley @ Garnet Valley….can’t wait. Game of the year
Ohara wood game changed to fri night at 7…I belive this is Ohara’s first game unde the lights in their new stadium
@rob
D2 wildcat hasn’t been heard from since Western Wayne beat Susquehanna.
Although, I did see them play Coughlin, and Siclari is the real deal. He is a fast and elusive runner. A threat to score every time he touches the ball.
But, on defense, he plays deep safety and doesn’t help in the run game much. He isn’t a physical player. He does not stick people, or stick his head in there to help in run support. I think he will play wideout in college.
D2 wildcat where are ya buddy? Looks like WW’s defense is still soft
La Salle 38 Malvern 6. best team in PA
@Joe
i think it the way people look at football in relationship to the game.Other states i think produce a great many skill postions,but if i looking for lineman i am coming to good old P.A !!!!
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/michael-lore/index.ssf/2012/09/six_easton_area_high_school_fo.html
If anyone is surprised, please let us know why. All the banter about temas and schools is pointless unless we see what the graduation rate is and what kind of kids develop to go on to the next step in life.
@phillyboy
Thank you for the explanation; pretty cool. I like all the chatter about the subject, but it is hard to pin it down concisely other than historically where the results do it for us. As to future, or even current season in progress; tough. I harbor no ills against any district, league, or team; but naturally favor the teams and league near where I live; if they do well, I get to see playoff games nearby, thats the key. I’m in D1, Suburban One League, but I fear as some of us do, that maybe D1, and Sub One, has had their day in the sun. Time marches on.
Wow
6 Easton players suspended for next game
If the ranking of districts was based on depth then district 1 and 7 would be the best. Basically the top 5 that was cited represents playoff success and top teams in the last 10 years. #4 and #5 on the list could possibly be transposed. Perhaps was being a little hard on district 1. The year McKeesport won the state title (2005) Bishop McDevitt had the best team in the state. LeSean McCoy had a season ending injury during the regular season. Wilson West Lawn (they’re district 3, right?) had a really strong team a few years ago but lost to the WPIAL team by a whisker. By the way, had the PCL been in the PIAA at the time St. Joe’s Prep might have won the state title in ’05.
@phillyboy
I agree they are five strong districts. Just have to ask what is the basis for the precise order? Are we talking today; last few years; state titles; historically?
@Phillyboy man are the D1 people gonna come after you!! I agree with you, I think there a lot ways to skin this cat however. If we are talking about best teams on best I would say yes 7-12-11-1-3. IF we are talking about depth top to bottom I would say 7-1-11-3-12. i say that because as good as D12 teams are usually it is only one (Wood, Lasalle, West). This year is a little different with lasalle, roman, and prep. If we look at this as one sole 10-12 team league it is the LVC in District 11. I don’t know how a district comparison can be done especially with how big D7 and D3 are. D3 goes from from reading all the way past harrisburg. If we would be doing this by region, it is D7 and “Old Eastern Conference” (D11, D2, D4) a lot of history there. While talking about this what came to my mind was does everyone think about Pennsylvania not being a “Power” state anymore. California, Ohio, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, and Georgia are so much farther ahead than us today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIAA_Football_Records This breaks down state titles by district and state titles by school. How about this stat ACC(3), Berwick(6), CB West(4), Mount Carmel(5),and Southern Columbia(6) account for 24 state titles among the 5 schools. The difference between East and West is that only 4 schools oput west accoun for more than 2 state titles TJ (3), Clariton (3), Rochester (3) and PCC (3). Much better football played out west. And it hurts me to say that.
The 5 strongest districts in order are: 7-12-11-3-1.
Lets look futher in to the numbers now i belive b3 is in the western bracket? But before that d 5,6,8,9 and 10 have 130 teams,that gives the wpial almost 50% of the teams in the west the odds of a team from their making a state final is much greater than any one from the east
@Jim B
Thank you Jim; your Old Eastern Conference region comment led to this “regionalization” and it is fascinating and I think a real value and measure. As last season wound down, I used what resources I had and could find and did a 90-page word document on PA H S Football based on the 23 State Championships through 2010. It has been my hobby since 1951; just love H S Football.
Ok, I see D3 is the Harrisburg area and has about 93 schools.
Kmac and Buddy,
This is a great conversation. So far we have established three “regions”
1. District 7 (the WPIAL) and District 8 (the Pittsburgh City League)
2. District 1 (philly burbs) and District 12 (philly)
3. Old Eastern Conference: District 2 (wilkes-barre/scranton), District 11 (Lehigh Valley & Poconos), District 4 (Coal region and northern tier)
The WPIAL and the Eastern Confernce each have about 30 Titles. Unfortunatly, D12 didn’t participate in the state playoffs for the first 20 they were run, so will never know what could have been.
What are the number from D6? Is that the Harrisburg/State College region”
@Buddy
D1 with 73 teams and D12 with 44 puts a match of 117 teams versus D7’s 127. Remember, my studies and numbers are through 2010 only. Combining the number of teams in each class for D1 and D12 against the same in D7 yields the following totals: in 4A D1-12 64 teams, D7 27. In 3A D1-D12 34 teams, D7 31. In 2A D1-12 13 teams, D7 34. In 1A D1-12 6 teams, D7 35. The state championships (again thru 2010) were in 4A D1-12 8, D7 11; in 3A D1-12 2, D7 6; in 2A D1-12 2 D7 6 and in 1A D1-12 0 D7 9. Total state championships D1-12 12 D7 32. Again add 2011 if you will, my study ended after the 2010 results.
@Buddy
Interesting point D1 & D12. I’ll get on it and post again. Also, now that D3 has a “western” class 4A State Champ in Central Dauphin (sorry to have to mention it, Buddy); we should get the asterisks ready for eastern teams winning western titles, and vice versa should it occur. Be back with D1 & D12.
Lets not forget about Henderson they have looked great undertheir new coach and they always play tough defense. DTE has to improve their run game and show they can conrol the clock. cant win around here without a strong run game.
How ’bout we compare D1 & D12 with D7 ?
You said there are 127 teams in D7 ( WPIAL).
How many in the 2 districts I mention above?
Might get a better comparision of dominance if the size is close.
@mark d
You are right Mark, on a basis of East-West, the East holds a decided edge. My earlier post was on a league-dominated basis, clearly WPIAL, which is also all of D7 has won far more than any other league. Jim B pointed out a region-comparison that was eye-opening, comparing a region of football to WPIAL as a “region”. I made an early season post that said we all have fun comparing east-west, league-league,region-region,team-team, and even down to individual players. We all have to remember to compare the same thing on both sides. The water is muddied by the fact that D7 is all one league, the WPIAL. But if it is a sanctioned PIAA league it is what it is. As such they have won 32 titles. Next with 12 titles is the PA Heartland Conference of the east. My numbers are through the 2010 season.
24 years of state playoff in all classes
east 55 west 41 don’t see how the any one from the west is dominated
@phillyboy
Other than Pittsburgh D8; D5 is the smallest District with only 13 teams. They have no 4A, 1 – 3A, 3- 2A, and 9- 1A. Windber, 1A is on the PA 500-win list. They have not sent any teams to a state championship since the start 1988, through 2010. D9 has 26 teams, only 1 4A – DuBois, 3- 3A, 5- 2A, and 17- 1A. They had sent two small-class teams to states long ago, and both lost. Both Districts are very rural overall with pretty good travel times for games.
@buddy
I’m not sure if you can’t read, or just read the parts you like. The whole premise was that D1 is not the best league in the state. Your problem is, any time somebody knocks D1 you act like they burned your house down. Take a breath, actually read what is typed, and then formulate an educated response. Let’s see how this season plays out and I’ll get at ya in a month or two. Oh yeah, PCL 7-4 against D1 this season. In case you were wondering.
@ philly…..:
Afraid you’re right. NP is in jeopardy of not making the playoffs this year. Can’t remember when that happened last. One more lose & they would be on the bubble.
They don’t play D-town East or Garnet valley, but they do play CB South, Pennridge & Souderton. I see the potential of at least one lose in there.
is anybody really excited for District 1 this year? It’s loaded with some great teams, that are not the normal North Penns, Neshaminy, etc. Garnet Valley & Ridley from Central League, and CB South is looking dangerous and so is Downingtown East.
Garnet Valley and Ridley play on October 5th @ Garnet Valley. Mark the calendars, it’s going to be a great game.
Just wondering. What’s up with district 5 and district 9? I never hear any mention of them Poor guys, nobody ever pays ’em any mind.
@Jim B
Very good point and comparison, Jim. I have never seen the Eastern Conference stats, but of course know of the fine football played there. I just feel if the arguement is about leagues, as long as D7 calls it all one league it is the best league. The teams in the Eastern Conference are from a lot of different leagues, but your “region” arguement is eye-opening and on the button.
@Kmac
Not so fast. Comparing an entire district (the WPIAL) to any one “league” isn’t quite fair. The WPIAL is all of district 7, and, like you said, is 127 teams. There are roughly 550 footballs teams, in all classes, across the state of PA. Do the math. The WPIAL, or D7, is about 23% of the PIAA. So again, comparing the amout of state titles the WPIAL has to any other league, or district, isn’t really fair.
How about you compare the WPIAL against the old Eastern Conference? That would be currently D2, D4, and D11. Those three districts have 116 schools fielding a team in 2012. A number much closer to the WPIAL’s 127. Those 116 Eastern Confernce schools have a combind 31 State Tiltes.
A – 9
AA – 10
AAA – 11
AAAA – 1
So yes, D7 does have the most titles by number, but they haven’t really been the dominate region.
@ Jive
Hear what you’re saying but North Penn is not the be all and end all of district 1. Not only will they not win the district this year, they won’t even make the playoffs. So, yes, they are having a down year. Expect Downingtown East, Garnet Valley, Ridley, or maybe CB South to step up.
@Jive:
You don’t understand do you? Try and read real slow.
NP is NOT the standard bearer in D1 this year ( it happens). Therefore, LaSalle & SJP beating up on NP does not make them the last word in high school football.
Unfortunately, this won’t be realized until deep into the playoffs. But then it will.
This just renders your analogies a bit juvenille.
@all
When arguing toughest league in the state gentlemen, remember we are arguing for the “SECOND” toughest in reality, as the WPIAL in D7 cannot be matched, albeit they have overwhelming numbers. Through 2010 WPIAL has 127 teams across all four classes. The league has sent 67 entries to state championships; they own 32 state titles; 11 champs in 4A; 6 in 3A; 6 in 2A; and 9 in 1A. Each class total is tops, except for 3A which is tied with 6 due to Berwick’s six 3A titles. WPIAL averages 2.9, or roughly 3 of four teams in the western bracket for championships each year. If D1 were also all one league as D7 WPIAL is; then we’d have an argument. Even then, D1 likely couldn’t match up too well in 2A and 1A. As for now we have to argue SECOND toughest league in the state.
@Buddy
OK, lets go back here because obviously we have a comprehension problem. Brian said NP is in the toughest league in the state. All you D1 cheer leaders have been hanging your hat on the NP bandwagon for the past 5 years. I asked a question, if NP finishes 1st or 2nd in that league, would that mean the PCL would be deemed the toughest? Over the last 3 weeks we have gone from, NP loss to LaSalle just because it’s week 1, they always take some time to gel. Then? Oh yeah, look what NP did to Wood, now they are rolling. Then? It’s just a down year for them, Prep should play somebody else in our league. Reminds me of the little kid that gets beat up and says, well then fight my big brother. Big brother gets beat up and says, well then fight my dad. Dad gets beat up, and so on and so on. Why so bitter?
Just a little something to chew on while you stew and boil at how somebody could knock the superior to all D1 football conference. PCL is 7-4 so far this year against D1. D1 has some very strong teams and there are a good amount of very good players there. However, it is odd that a stud Sophomore D1 WR lives right around the corner from me, in the heart of Philly. Damn I hate how the PCL recruits!
@ Jive:
If you wanna claim that the PCL (mainly LaSalle & Prep) is head & shoulders over other leagues ( mainly sub. one), let them play someone else besides NP, which is in a down year. NP won’t finish in the top 6 this year in sub. one.
You PCL fans have those teams coranated already.
Love to see them schedule the likes of D-town East, Garnet Vallet, even Neshaminy & CB South during the regular season. It would give you a better insight on their abilities.
@ joe
Not that it really matters because Easton won anyway,but in away you right a couple of those guys were in but not until the 2nd team D allowed them to get to the red zone in 2 or 3 plays.Up until that point #77,85,32 were standing on the sideline helmets up drinking water.
@Joe
It was proposed a couple years ago to have all of the PCL teams compete in one league. In order for it to happen the vote had to be unanimous. There were 2 no votes, Wood and West. I would love it to be one division, however, some folks know the only way they will see hershey is on a chocolate bar if that happens.
@Brian
You are right that NP is in a tough league. If they finish first or second though, does that mean the PCL is the toughest league in the state? Considering LaSalle and Prep pretty much made them look like a JV team.
@Bill
Of course im,im very happy to see coach crosby doing well he’s going to take those kids very far
Also north Allegheny, 38th, Bishop McDevitt 56 ranked nationally.
Rankings maybe useless but its fun watching Pennsylvania football. Max Prep rankings, prep 34th in the country, Lasalle 109, Downington East 128. Way to represent Pennsylvania.
@Rollie Ciffo,
Agree NP is in the toughest league in the state, even the Continental Conference with CB South, Pennridge & Souderton all with great teams this year will have a long road ahead. Rankings are useless where half of the LVC & MidPenn teams could not even come close to the competition level of Suburban One football. The Souderton/Pennridge game on October 5th will be a good one to watch probably one of the biggest rivalries in the state.
@Rollie Ciffo I would not say that the PCL is a tough league. It could be a tough league. This year yes it is in 4A with how good Roman, Lasalle and SJP are. But if the PCL wants to be considered with all of those other leagues why not put Wood, Prep, Lasalle, Roman, O’hara, Ryan, Judge, West Catholic put all those teams in one league and make them play each other. Maybe not West because of size. And obviously with the way that wood, prep, and lasalle and even roman scheduling out of conference games they are not scared to play anyone. put those teams in same league with same schedule and that will put them in the class of thos eother leagues. But up until this year all they had was Lasalle, Wood, and West 3 teams in 3 seperate conferences.
@Rollie
Glad to see some discussion on strong leagues again; it has been a while since someone addressed the subject; I fully agree with the leagues you named as strong ones. I think the rankings lead to all the fine comments and banter on the website adding to the interest in the games and season; but the final ranking of the season is “THE” ranking, and even then there is room for discussion on teams beyond the top two. I do not take the rankings critically serious, but very much enjoy seeing them each new week.
Up here in d2
Looks like a show down in AAAA between Del Val & Scranton
AAA Berwick Abington Heighs & Scranton Prep seem to be the top teams
AA looks to be wide open with everyone still in the running
A looks like the Dunmore Bucks are leading the pack
Only week three but you can see some teams rising and some falling but as they say lots of ball to play !!!
@Rover Easton’s second team was not in the game, #85, #77, #18, #32 were all in the game for both TD’s at the end of the game. I am not a Parkland fan but I watched the game and all the starters were in the game.
All you guys cutting on NP realize the Phillie Cath and Suburban conference are 2 of the toughest leagues in PA, right up there with Mid-Penn, WPIAL AAAA and LVC?
Rankings are really useless. One doesn’t really even start getting a sense of who the really good teams are until after week 7 or 8 when the Playoff points start to accumulate to tell the story.
How is Wood still ranked in the top 10 let alone #5 when they were beaten handily by NP, which was trashed by an undefeated team( St. Joe’s) ranked below them?? After three weeks of the season, it’s the only comparison one could use. If NP is out of the top 10, then so should Wood at this juncture. Otherwise these rankings are somewhat senseless.
Prep, and Lasalle is gearing up to be a good one. I think it’s going to be a defensive game. If Lasalle passing game is clicking they could win. Prep defense only allowed two touchdowns in three games. Next couple of weeks should tell who has the edge.
Its possible North Penn could be watching the playoffs from the stands this year. And not that i think they are not any good. Last year the started 1-2 and came in as the 11th seed. They basically had to run the table last year after a 1-2 start. But this year its hard to see them going undefeated in their league this year. Certainly CB south Pennridge or Souderton COULD!!! knock them off. With 3 loses i just dont see them makiong it. But hey i COULD!! be wrong
@John
I have to agree that Prep has a very strong team. LaSalle score was not indicative on the NP game. LaSalle beat them up pretty good and had a couple of bad breaks. Cocoa game was a complete destruction on the coaches part. You can only run sweep left, sweep right so many times against good teams. That being said, the top two teams in D12 are shaping up to be Prep and LaSalle, and until they play, anybodys guess as to who will win is a crapshoot. I’d hate to have to set a line on that game, but I’m really looking forward to watching it!
How can you say Lasalle is better than Prep. If I’m not mistaken NP gave Lasalle a little run until the forth quater. Prep took out NP from the start. Also did you see Prep play that team down Florida. That team was fast and big with top a national ranking running back. That kid finished with 68 yards. I was the first to mention on this site about LB jones, now I’m telling Prep is the best team
To Jack12, are you proud of the Imhotep score?
Imhotep Panthers wins 54-0
I agree LaSalle is very good all around this year they held Ohara to 180 yard of offense and kept NP’s Mayfield in check in week 1. Also Qb Kane has looked like a 3 year starter and with quick receivers like Coleman and Herron the offense is looking very good.
i am a public school football fan, but i got to say la salle is probably the best team in the state. Grant it i haven’t seen north Allegheny play, but i have seen prep, north penn, wood, easton, downingtown east, and roman. LA salle is better than all of them
54-0 Imhotep
Way to go Souderton Big Red on their huge win over Neshaminy 18-7!
@ Bill
You can’t go be the final score in the Easton game
Parkland was down by 3 touchdowns with about 7 min left in the game.parkland scored 2 late tds because the 2nd team D was in the game.Easton D is tough the week b4 parkland put up almost 400 yards rushing and barely had 200 total against Easton.
Does anyone have a Imhotep score?
Philly boy, not so fast with Easton. They just barely beat Parkland and there’s Del Val and Scranton who look like they will give them a run for their money.
@ phillyboy:
Sounds about right ( not sure about Garnet Valley though)
Before all the Catholic vs Public crap starts up just remember most if not all public schools will take tuition students so anyone can go anywhere you just have to pay the dough!
Phillyboy –
If you don’t think that LaSalle can beat any of the four teams that you mention then you don’t know know what you are talking about. Don’t go crazy over SJ Prep….they beat a very overrated North Penn team and LaSalle is much bigger and more physical on both sides of the line of scrimmage. I would give the edge in skill position players to SJP.
@ Wolfman;
Because they are North Penn
@ et al:
Yep, no doubt about it, this is a rebuilding year, they sure as hell ain’t re-loading.
Looks like LaSalle’s run could be over. There’s a new sherrif in town. Expect the winner of Prep/Easton to meet the winner of Downingtown East/Garnet Valley in the eastern final. Then probably winner of Prep/D. East will take on Gateway or N. Allegheny in Hershey.
SJP 31 NP 3
Looks like another great LaSalle vs Prep match up at Philly catholic champs.
@pa or dont you mean “GUYS” who dont know much about football? take your gripe to the mirror in the bathroom…
@ PA:
???????
Not all of us are as hip as you, what is “THE VIEW”?
North Penn >>>>>the most over rated team in PA. They were basically dominated by 3 Philadelphia Catholic League teams 3 yards total in the 1st half against Wood, if the kid from Wood doesn’t put it on the ground 5 times they would have been dominated three times. Hoe is this team ranked so highly?
@ B
The home page of prepfootball.org has “media” at the top. If you click on that, then “live streaming”, then “click on this for live broadcast” you’ll come to a blank screen. Don’t know what to do at that point. Maybe a code is necessary.
This part of your site sounds like the male version of “THE VIEW” blahblahblah
Anyone know if the NP/Prep game is televised live?
I know last weeks NP/Wood game was live on TCN
Coach Curry is worth 2 tds alone.. Berwick will need to play hard and for 4 quarters. Def. needs to get to #5. Time to put last years loss behind. Show Dallas some good old smash mouth Berwick football.
Dallas at Berwick last chance for Dallas a loss and they might be on the out side looking in for the playoffs.Pittston in the same boat,it a must win week for both. Dunmore @ West Scranton always a phycial game.Will be at the Valley View @ Honesdale game. Good luck to all
you mean LaSalle ” college’ HS?
Mount carmel @ southern columbia!!! Two district 4 powers. Friday night at tiger stadium… get your dancin shoes shined and your hair done for this show!!!
I like southern 34-24…… ?????
Does La salle go to the state championship? thoughts?
The Lehigh Valley Conference, D 11, Games to follow, Freedom visits Whitehall, The Whitehall offense has looked more crisped in their No-huddle Offense. The 2012 Freedom’s squad is still looking to make a statement win, this could be a good start. ACC and Emmaus games, so big for both teams, Emmaus has not been tested this year. ACC looking to pick up bonus points for 3A playoffs. 5 wins get ACC in. MVC, Stroudsburg travels two Exits to East Stroudsburg South, the Purple Pit!!! Enjoy the games… Semper Fi!!!!!!!!!!
Games of Interest in the Coloinal League: Bangor @ So. Lehigh, it’s time for the Spartans to live up to their pre-season top ranking in the Coloinal League. It’s not do or die, but close. Up and coming Palisades travels to Catty, who has surprised the league so far. Catty has serveral weapons this year. As long they stay health-free. Their schedule does get stronger thoughout the season. Pen Argyl @ N.D., both have good defenses, but the Green Knights are more battled tested. Enjoy the games!!! Semper Fi…..
@jiveturkey9:
I agree with you on all that. You’re right, I am a D1 fan. But I try to look at it objectively.
I’m afraid you’re right again, I think NP could be in trouble this week against Prep. I really don’t know what Prep has, but if they can pass well ( like LaSalle), NP’s in trouble.
@solfootballfan:
You’re right. CB South could be a sleeper. We all know about D-town East, and I thought Pennridge would be a contender. They still might.Some really good games coming up, like NP/CB South. You’ll wanna catch that one.
@jimbo
Heard from a father who sons plays that it was just a real bad sprain ,now that talk not a fact for sure.As for Valley View i dont think you know what they have till they play Scranton.On paper they should get by Honesdale & East Stoudsburge North.Passing game needs a lot of work 5 for 19 with 4 int isn’t going to get it done.Needs to get all his athletes involed not just phillps(if he can play)and Castellani.Time will tell lot of ball to play
to ????, I was curious and googled Imhoteps website. Is this charter school open to all? SOmething is fishy here.
It’s kinda early, but even with the loss of Johns, Brown, Veal and 6 other starters on offense, cb south’s offense is looking pretty solid. The defense, the biggest weakness for this team in previous seasons, has a lot of returning members and so far looks to be promising, at least for now. Cb South seems like the sleeper of the SOL. Anyone else agree with me?
@ OL Coach
Imhotep is just a power house and their speed is just stupid on defense and offence.
If you wanna see why they are one of the top AA power house come to the game at Germantown football field at 6pm on saturday and you will see the crushing hits our defense puts on offenses and the speed we have on offense. And see if any AA team can top our speed. #Tep
@Buddy,
I am no LaSalle fan by a long shot. However I do root for some of the PCL, and root for some teams in the Pub. That being said, my point was not how great LaSalle or any other PCL AAAA teams are, it was about how Wood is not what everybody expected them to be. I think Wood would have a very tough time with Washington, AAAA Pub team. Although Wood will kill AAAA Frankford this week.
On a lighter note, I loved one of your respondants. Almost the same know it all response, but in a total contradictory platform. You got called a know it all message board reader for supporting Wood. On Funksters top 10 I got called the same thing, by the same person, for knocking them. Gotta love original thought! Enjoy Prep vs. NP this week. I guess you are a D1 guy buy I have a bad feeling for NP this week. Never know till they play the game though.
Mark d, phillips had acl injury, think he tore it, not sure! He had 8 carries for 94 yards before he went down. It”s ashame but thats football, although his replacements did wonderful ., i hope they do the same against the div 1 teams this year!
@ OL coach:
How could I possibly pawn myself off as ” Mr. know-it-all”, you already cornered that market.
I’ve seen live, LaSalle, NP & Wood play this year.
See my post below to “jiveturkey” regarding Wood being better than LaSalle. It was a joke, just to get a rise outa people like you.
@ footballfan:
Same. See my post below to jiveturkey.
Right now, LaSalle appears to be the team to beat. I don’t think anyone in the PCL can do it. They won’t get any real test ’til late into the playoffs.
Buddy
I know you are a North Penn fan, but try to be honest here. North Penn beat a Wood Team that is not even close to last year. The LaSalle vs North Penn game wasn’t even any where as close as the score was. I think North Penn is going to have a lot of trouble with this kid Josh Adams from CB South when they play. North Penn is always a good team but this year I don’t think they are close to LaSalle.
I’ve been saying it for a long time now; Wood is going to come back to earth a bit this year. I expect them to tumble further by the time they play St. Joe’s Prep in a few weeks. After losing 7 division 1 players how were they ranked #1?
@Buddy, if you’re going to represent yourself as a know all (which you do), you really need to get out and actually see some ball not just read message boards.
If you truly believe Wood is stronger than LaSalle, you’re just a dope. Wood can’t throw a pass to save their life; stop the run and Wood is cooked.
Don’t get me wrong, Wood is still a strong team but not LaSalle caliber.
@????, Imhotep had a strong team returning but be honest, Williams and Chatmon put them over the top! If Williams stays at WC, I take WC over Imhotep in the playoffs. So, even though you had a nice team coming back, in no way would it have been the power team Imhotep is.
Valley View @ Lakeland very physical game team that made the last mistake lost. Valley View suffered a big blow as Phillps left the game with a knee injury .Afraid to say it didn’t look good. Still a lot of talent on that team ,let see how the coach handels it ????
@jiveturkey:
Ah, there it is………….
I only said that to get a rise outa you LaSalle/PCL fans.
Damn if it didn’t work!
Big game this fri., Prep/NP.
Here’s the skinny on that.
If Prep has a passing game , they will probably win. If they don’t, they will definetly lose.
@ Beck & NP coaching staff: Please, you guys have got to get some pass defense established! That’s been your waterloo for some years now.
Wouldn’t hurt to get some pass offense goin’ too.
Lance,
I havnt seen Imhotep in person. Would love to tho. From what ive heard their team speed is just silly. They have a chance to go where no Philly Pub tean has gone before.
Can anyone please give me some feed back on the west catholic vs washington game
@ Mikey:
????????????
@Bobby:
Be honest now
D2 wildcat? Where are ya? Prep put up 50 on Western Wayne. What happen to the ultimate weapon, Siclari?
@Buddy,
Wood is clearly a better team than LaSalle? How did you come to this conclusion? The 3 best teams in the PCL are LaSalle, Prep, and Roman. All AAAA, and all better than Wood. We all saw last night what happens when you go against a real defense and try the old pop warner sweep right, sweep left. Wood has a very good defense and an OK offense. Pretty tough to say how great a team is when their FB is their best skill position player. They will walk through their AAA schedule and get blasted in the 2nd round of states. One of the AAAA’s will be in the Eastern final.
One side note: A couple years ago it was proposed that all PCL play AAAA to make it much easier on scheduling and to have a true PCL champion. There were 2 No votes out of all of the PCL schools. Guess who they were? Correct-a-mundo! Wood and West because they knew the only way they would get to Hershey would be with Buy One Get One Free park tickets from Burger King.
U have to admit the Imhotep Charter Panthers are a Machine!!
Who are the top linebackers in District one, Sepa?
We only had 2 transferred students for football Brandon Chatmon and David Williams so can you please stop saying our team is boosted go look at the rosters from last year and compare it to this year team and that will so how much under rated talented players we really had under the radar
Down year in the WVC, probably the worst I’ve ever seen it. Berwick, Coughlin and Wyoming Area are quality teams but after that it gets considerably worse. Jury is still out for me on WVW though, but I think I know enough about the other teams to know that they’re not very good this year.
#1 Wood loses 24-10 to North Penn, and @2 central dauphin loses 24-7 to McDevitt. It looks like some teams are overrated this year.
Buddy,
I try not to put too much stock in these early games. I though NP would start 0-3 as well but still thought either way they would be there well into December like always. weather conditions played too much of a factor. Play was a little sloppy and holding on to the ball was very tough. Wish the game was played today so we could have saw a much better game with 2 of the best teams in PA regardless of classification. Congrats to NP. They certainly turned a game that wood looked like they would win handily……………..one other thing is Alabama on North Penns schedule? Man they certainly dont duck anyone
@ Joe
Appreciate your comments on how we don’t want to be like NJ and hand out 24 state titles. How watered down it would be like that. There’s already the 4 enrollment classifications. That’s enough.
By the way, over in NJ it’s even worse than you expressed. They only have true private state champions per enrollment classification. They don’t have state champions for the public schools. They have 4 geographic sections (similar to districts in PA). Once the 4 sectional champions are crowned per enrollment classification that’s it. They don’t have semifinals and finals to determine at least true public champions. How corny can it get. I played ball in South Jersey back in the late 80’s and they still havn’t fixed it. If anything, NJ should be following PA’s example. The only thing wrong with the PA playoff system is that it’s 1 week too long.
@Buddy We buried NP because Downingtown East is better
There is no way wood is better than la salle. La salle is the team in eastern pa
last night watched dunmore vs GAR dunmore’s back austin seamon 207yds. rushing, 1 reception for touchdown 2rushing td,s.1 interception,another interception negated by a penalty and caused 1fumble dunmore’s 2 tailbacks seamon and buckley split time at tailback seamon seems the better of the 2 it seems if he got as many carries as the other starting tailbacks he would get more recognition . buckley is a great back in his own right both play defense also dunmore looked tough no. 71 boland could be the best lineman in D2.
@ all you who had NP buried………. not quite!
@ Hooverville:
about that 0 and 3 start………………..
Go figure
NP loses to LaSalle, then beats Wood
Wood is clearly a better team than LaSalle
Will the real NP please stand up
Delaware valley seems to have a good team this year. it would be nice to see them come to the D2/4/11 dance and make some noise. Scranton seems to have a good team too. They played Easton tough last year. Let enjoy all the regular season games first!
OL: What are you, a junior high student? Disagreeing with someone is one thing, but you specialize in just being a pompous, condescending blowhard ( not the word I really had in mind, but I want Mika to post this)
You, and the school(s) you try to represent, would be best served if you said nothing at all.
Whats the deal with Delaware Valley with wins over Parkland and Wyoming Valley West?
@OL Coach while I certainly agree with Jim being largely uninformed. I wouldn’t say that the Philly schools have come in and beat everyone up. In fact I think 95% of the people wanted the Philly schools in to crown true state champions. In fact in 4A since Philly has come in District 11, 12, 3, and 7 each have a title. In 3A District 7, 4, 11, and 12 each have a title. In 2A District 10 and 12 have one and 3 has two. I wouldn’t exactly call that kicking everyone’s butt. I will say this anyone who wants to seperate public and private schools is scared of competition plain and simple. To be the best I want to beat the best no matter who it is. What does a state title mean if they hand 24 of them like they do in jersey. The way we do it in Pa is the right way. So I agree with you, however your post is the reason people dont like the Philly schools, not because your successful in football, most of us wanted you in the PIAA because we wanted true state champions and make sure the level of PA football was as high as possible.
to OL coach, thanks for your well thought out and insightful posting.
La Salle best 4A team in the state?
you’re right brian except it has nothing to do with school choice and everything to do with building stacked teams. One day you’ll get it
Cant we get off this Public School vs Private School stuff? I’m sure most people are for school choice and where a family decides to send their son or daughter for whatever reason academics or athletics is really no business of ours. Athleticaly both programs are equally good.
Valley View @ Lakeland tonight a game that seperates the men form the boys ,it alaway a head knocker can;t wait
colin, I couldn’t resist! You hit the real frustation button. At least the kids going to a Catholic school will receive discipline, academic instruction and maturity awareness! Thank you for bringing that up. Most fair minded people dispise underhanded ness and the moving around part. As adults, we need to be concerned these kids don’t wash out in the game of life when it’s all over. More times than not that happens right after HS. Good luck to your team and to all the players who truly love to play the game for the right reasons.
usatoday.com ranks the top 25 high school football teams in the country. They used to also always rank the top 10 teams in 4 geographic regions (east, south, midwest, and west). Can’t seem to locate the regional rankings online. Does anybody out there know if they still have that? And if so how can it be accessed online?
Whats the word on Springfield Montco. saw them put up some good numbers this past weekend
Jim,
Beings that you drug me into this i will make 1 more post. Heck i just wanted a report on the Imhotep/Strath Haven game. You made a comment on my post so naturally anyone would comment. I read you comments on this issue and agree with you on many of your points. In the David Williams case his school,West Catholic was scheuled to be closed along with several others by the Diocese of Phila. Anyone that lives in the Phila area saw it plastered all over the news for weeks so it is legit. However the school did get a 2 yr repreive to stayed open. By that time he had already made the choice to attend Imhotep and wasnt looking back. Its highly unlikely that he would have transfered to Imhotep with out the fear of closure. West Catholic is a serious contender for the state title without him so imagine how good they would be with him. So hence i say i dont see the athlectic benefit for him to just up and leave. It was the 2nd school in which he was attending to close on him 3 years………….I agree with you 100% with moving on to a different topic. This recruit/public/non public thing is always a hot topic.You are one of the few guys mentions the movement of kids between public schools. Its always the non public that gets the bashing. I always found it funny to see the Catholic league bashing and never any bashing of the Public league. So many kids move from pub school to pub school its crazy. Just take a look at George Washington Or Ffrankfords rosters. Kids are from all over the city………….on to other topics
Going to Souderton vs Unionville and NP vs Wood
Both should be great games. Taking Souderton & NP. Have to root for the Continental which all of the teams in the league look great with maybe the exception of Hatboro who lost their best running back to injury.
Colin, think about what I tried to explain how non publics starts slowly and then bam year after year of good solid teams! You mentioned Imhoteps basketball team, so that is first then football, then… go to their website, quite an interesting school to say the least. Thats a separate debate. PS The kid thought his school was closing? really? His parents can pick the phone up and make a call or drive to the school and ask an administrator. Come on man, I dont need to be a santa claus to know a snow job. I’m dont want to clog up this forum anymore, so no more posts on this and we can agree to disagree on kids moving around schools to play sports.
Jim,
Coming into the season I thought Imhotep would be a good team. They had many returning players from a team by Public league standards was good last year. I cant say how many kids they had just “show up”. Having the best running back in PA transfer in would make anyone good. As far as i know Imhotep had 2 significant tranfers this season. David Williams and another player whosw name escapes me. In williams case jeez, the kids thought his sschool was closing. there may be others but i dont know for sure. You mentioned that they are the “perfect example of your point”. If you are refering to the Imhotep basketball program i can see your point. But as far as the Football program i havnt seen the “perfect example” of what you mentioned. Can you please expand?
Easton has a very good football team, but it’s early in the season. After one game in which Easton completely dominated Pennsbury doesn’t make a season. A lot can happen and it’s only week 1.
With that being said, Easton always plays teams in the playoffs tough. Heck, Easton lost twice to Nazareth last year both by 7 points. In the second meeting they didn’t have their top RB (Middleton) who was their leading rusher and I believe had the most catches on the team. Easton returns a ton and will play good defense once again…if they can get Simpson (a sophomore) going and he stays healthy…it’s the best back Easton has had in the PCL era of the PIAA. 290 yards and 5 TD’s against Pennsbury. Will Easton each that game? Who knows? Will LaSalle win the PCL and D-12? Who knows…
Hope it happens because besides 2008 Liberty team that didn’t meet LaSalle, someone from D-11 wants to beat them. Liberty would of mercy ruled LaSalle that year.
A couple of thoughts…..
#1. Why compare North Penn to LaSalle. I think you would need to understand if LaSalle graduates 240+ and NP….we know how much they graduate. How could LaSalle compete and actually be better than NP on a yearly basis? Now I am definitely not saying they “recruit” but for a fact they have a large area in Philadelphia and the burbs to get kids from. So if you had a territory and 240 kids per class you’d never win more against NP than lose.
Your argument is like saying a good PA high school basketball school should beat Oak Hill Academy because they have like 110 kids in their school.
Week 2, Colonial League D 11, Game of the Week is the Roughies of Catty visiting Southern Lehigh, who is coming off a beatdown from the N.L. Dawgs. Game of Interest is Saucon Valley, who played Pen Argyl tough, visits Bangor. LVC, Game of the Week is Easton traveling to Parkland. Also, a Game of interest is Libery goes to Whitehall, both teams are 0-1. LVC D 11, schedules are very tough. check it out. Enjoy the games. Semper Fi!!!!!!
Going to North Penn at Wood this Sat. I just hope it doesn’t get ugly.
Mount carmel @ lewisburg this week… should be a good one!?
Philly, read it again. I have two issues and one is kids moving around districts in the public schools to play on other teams who can help them up their college prospects or be on a winning team, sometimes after the season to play in another sport. The main argument was that I SAID Public and non Public SHOULD SPLIT OFF FOR THE PLAYOFFS. I think its great they play during the regular season. With the logic of those who don’t get it, why even have A/AA/AAA/AAAA schools then? The reasonis that is one fair way to try and balance out inequities of male student population and kids playing on a team. I watched an excellent public school lose in the first round to a stacked ACC two years ago. This team should have gotten 1 maybe 2 wins at least. That is what I am saying to you people who look at a snapshot and not the whole picture. NJ finally after many years of these programs that are now like Bosco, #1 in the country much overdue pressure changed their system. two reasons were parents were furious with top kids getting picked off from their schools leaving big holes to fill for coaches who try to build programs around up and coming kids… and good solid public school teams getting embarassed by powerhouses. Your argument sounds like public safety. We’ll put up a traffic light after X amounts of fatalities. PS I see a post for IMHOTEP, tell me these kids just magically showed up for a better education, that entire program is a perfect example of my point.
Wondering if anyone who was at the Imhotep/Strath Haven game could provide a report. Coming into the year i thought Imhotep would be a good team but i didnt think anything like this. Are they that good or Is SH that bad this year. Was very suprised to see a 68-13 score.
although this western wayne guy says this siclari is the ultimate weapon, from the area and not heard to much about him. If he is good I am sure I will. Follow high school football not much talk about him here! I do believe however Tyler Phillips running back from VV Cougars was at Penn St for a visit this weekend and enjoyed the visit with his old teamate Nyeem Wartman. where it goes from there I dont know!
Can’t believe North Penn is still in big school top ten. Saw them Friday night, they are overrated. Will lose 4 games this year, at least.
Am i reading this score right? Imhotep 68 Strath Haven 12?…If true is Imhtep really that good or is this a weak SH team? I know coming into this year Imhotep team had a lot of kids returning and then picked up David Williams from WC. If someone was there i would love to hear a report.
@ jim
You say it’s just a matter of time before the PA Catholic schools are at the same level as N Jersey. So your argument is that they should split public/private because in about 30 years they might be like N Jersey?? That’s brilliant. YOU DON’T FIX IT IF IT’S NOT BROKEN. Again, since 1988 public schools have won the AAAA title 19 out of 24 years.
To Josh Funk, the bottom line is there are two programs. Schools that pick the kids who live in their respective towns and schools that can get kids from their school district, surrounding districts or sometimes even farther away. I want to apologise for posting that Public school kids don’t move around their districts for athletic reasons and for posting that non public schools “soft” and “hard” recruit. What was I thinking? I guess this little whining little kid will also take back everything I said about Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemons, Lance Armstrong… using steroids since their official governing bodies can’t produce hard evidence. Anytime you want names, I’ll send you 5 names of players from D11 and D2 who have moved around for non academic reasons over the past 3 years in any sport. The kids are kids,God bless them,they just want to play ball, so we don’t need to throw them under the bus. Who we need to out is the so called adults in the room. It’s always those folks who screw things up for power, money and or fame. Right Penn St? Did you know that 65% of College football programs have been put on probation for rules and ethics violations? 65%!!! While I’ll concede it is college, a good reporter can have a field day with HS’s all around the country who know how to navigate around the system. I don’t want to harp on this, my original posting was that the publics and non publics should play each other during the regular season and should be seperated for the playoffs. One more thing about and i’ll use “inviting kids” vs “recruiting” them to play for another school. When we find out about the kid or kids who were stars in HS and then if and only if they are lucky(ability at the next level, grades, maturity…) wash out before, during or after college. That’s what we should all be concerned with as fans and responsible adults. Putting playing sports with dreams of playing in the big time down the road in the forefront of a teenager becomes the kids problem and many times societies problem when it’s all over.
Jim,
Unless you have hard evidence (i.e. player names, school names, etc.) of any Pennsylvania catholic/private school as “out of control” as any/all of the private/catholic/parochial schools of New Jersey and Maryland, your claims of recruiting are pointless and meaningless and come off as nothing more than whining like a little kid. If you know of any specifics, cite player and school names to make your case. If you don’t, you are probably better off staying out of the subject altogether rather than hurling blind accusations which are probably unfounded.
Western Wayne plays Scranton Prep next and then Coughlin. We will see what they are really made of over the next two weeks.
Phillyboy, why split? Private AKA Catholic schools are supposed to be about a Catholic religious education that have sports teams right? So your pompous “facts” line shows you don’t get it. It’s almost the same as kids moving around Districts to play on better teams. Bosco, bergen Catholic, Joe’s… were where PA Cath Schools are now in the late 70’s early 80’s and now they are machines and big money making programs. It’s a matter of time before they keep moving to the next level and next level…
@ jim
Why do you want to see the public and private schools split for the playoffs? Is it possibly because you imagine that the privates have an unfair advantage? FYI the current AAAA state champion is a public school and since the state playoffs started in 1988 the publics have won 19 out of 24 years. I don’t mean to confuse you with the facts. Recruiting gives the private schools a fighting chance. Besides, the recruiting in PA is soft compared to NJ and MD where it’s out of control.
How can you say Siclari is the most dynamic kid in the LFC? They played a young LFC111 Susquhanna team. When he plays against D11 or ranked teams then we’ll see. Nothing against the kid.
to bobby, I agree and in the end coming out with a good education sets them up for the real game of life. I have no problem with Catholic school sports programs. I would like to see them split away during the playoffs though like they do in NJ
Bobby –
OL Patrick Hoffman will sign with Navy
OL/DL Spiteri getting good look from Temple
Winslow signed w/Pitt
Coleman would be getting looks but he is one of the top 5 players in the country in lacrosse
There are several underclassmen who will be getting looks in future years.
Hope Easton wins but have to take LaSalle 21-14
La Salle beats Easton by 2 touchdowns
What people don’t understand is that none of these kids from la salle that were “recruited” are going anywhere big to play college football. A couple of d3 schools is all. It’s a team of solid football players
Seen Easton and lasalle no comparison this year Easton much better very sold team. No studs on la salle maybe overrated
ROBBIE SICLARI WESTERN WAYNE
The most dynamic player is the LFC got off to a good start this saturday afternoon. Robbie had a few carries for 100 yds rusning 2 td’s.1 reception for 50 yds. He had a kick off return for a TD. Punt return for a TD. Then on defense he had 1 int 2 sacks and a ton of tackles. WOW thats all I could say.
Jim –
Every time a private school has success all the public school people say the same thing – recruiting. North Penn has well over 100 kids come out for football every year, and that is an enormous advantage in such a demanding sport where depth is everything. Why do you think that PA has different classifications for schools based upon size? Its only silly because you don’t have an intelligent response.
To hooverville: Ohio state has 50,000 students and USC has 32,000. Who is ranked #1? It’s not the size of the student body. Do you really go down the tired road that kids just want to go to Catholci schools for the education? I would bet the farm thats not the case. Again Hooterville, they don’t overtly recruit but you will never accept that. Done with this silly argument.
Jim –
You forgot to add one more fact regarding the “catholic school crap”……the public schools are much larger than the catholic schools, often by a factor of 2-3. North Penn is easily 2-3 times larger than everyone they play. LaSalle’s graduating class last year was 246 kids, there are probably more students in 3rd period gym class then that at NP. Can you name me one player on LaSalle that was recruited?
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They’re ba’aack…..St. Joe’s Prep that is. The Prep and Roman have a chance to take the PCL. I would love to see an undefeated Easton/Pennridge eastern final.
Not so fast having easton winning sub regional
Easton will not beat LaSalle, they are too big up front and have great skill players with explosive speed.
NP goes 1 and 2 out of the gate, wins a close one at pennridge. However, they do not make the eastern final.
Easton beats whoever comes out of the PCL, then plays in the eastern final, probably against D-town East.
Way too early for the above predictions, but what the hell, that’s what these blogs are all about.
I like North Penn. I really do. But this routine is starting to get played out. Some other district 1 team needs to step up.
Please stop the Catholic school crap already. Apples and Oranges against public Schools. They recruit and everyone knows it. Nothing wrong with that until they compete with public schools who pick the kids from their town.
In the state championship**
I don’t think it is going to be the same year I think the game that’s going to decide who goes to the state championship this year is going to be the catholic league championship between roman and la salle who ever wins that game is going to be the state championshIp
Buddy – North Penn goes 0-3 out of the gate and will also lose to Pennridge and maybe Souderton. Most likely will not even be in playoffs to meet Lasalle again. And Beck on his best day, which I have never seen, will never, ever out coach Drew Gordon. BTW – I am a NP grad.
Seems to be North Penn’s typical start. If the scenerio plays out, they meet again in the playoffs at which time Beck then out-coaches Gordon.
Chris Kane looked like a 3 year starter at quarterback for La Salle. Tough matchup in the first game for the North Penn defensive backs. I expect they will be a much better team mid-year.
I have been to all 5 North Penn – LaSalle games in the past three years. The difference is clearly coaching. Drew Gordon is by far the better coach in this series, Beck is totally clueless. There is no way that LaSalle should have dominated this series the way that they have, the talent levels are very close. The difference is coaching. Agree with snapple, LaSalle by far the superior team, should have won by 4 touchdowns at least.
the score, 20-7 La Salle, did not indicate how much LA salle dominated North penn. Over rated
@Buddy
No shocker in Easton
Pennsbury loses 32-14 Soph running back gains 290 and 5 touchdowns
Great opportunity for St. Joe’s Prep to get their mojo back tonight if they can take out a strong Florida program. A win against Cocoa would portend good things to come.
I’ll be ay LaSalle/North Penn tonite.
Too damn hot for football though. Don’t know how these kids do it.
Next week ( Sat. nite) is North Penn at Archbishop Wood. That could shake up the entire rankings. At least i hope it does.
Waverly (NY) at Athens Week 1- What a Dandy of an opening game. Waverly made it to the NYS Semis last year and are returning a lot. Athens has what possibly could be the best recieving corps in the state as well as many other talented players. This Athens team is as good if not better than their team that won a District 4 Championship a few years back. For any northern PA football fans, this is a must see game.
There are so many good games tonight. As much as I want to commit to one, I don’t want to miss the WNPV 1440 am Bucks County Intelligencer Scoreboard Highlight show. They stream that online after the feature game. Those guys rock. If WIP had any sense they would simulcast that show on 610 am.
I’ll be heading to Graterford to watch Plymouth-Whitemarsh @ Perkiomen Valley. I’m hoping the Vikings can shut down the Colonials in what is, I believe, their first ever meeting on the gridiron.
Wilson and Governor Mifflin, 2 league champions and rivals opening the season, always a good one
Colonial League, D 11, Game of the week, So. Lehigh travels to the Dawg pound, No. Lehigh, 7pm, Friday. Game of interest is Wilson @ Catty. Fri. Enjoy the games!!!!
Where’s # 2 ?
Shamokin @ Pottsville…let’s see what the Indians are made of this season. No brainer.
Bloom @ S. Williamsport…. or southern @ pius x. Everyones still undecided …. like last yr. we’ll end up flipping a coin..
Haverford Prep @ Pennridge. Heard Haverford has a huge line, hard to tell who they recruited this year. Could set the tone for Pennridge.
wallenpaupack @ valley view, Parkland @del valley is a game i think all d2 will be watching !
GARNET VALLEY @ UNIONVILLE….7:00 Friday August 29th
ONE OF THE BEST GAMES YOU WILL SEE ALL SEASON.
DON’T MISS IT.
I’m going to Garnet Valley-Unionville. This game has always been one of the marquee rivalries in the Delco area and will continue it’s tradition of nail-biting games.
GARNET VALLEY @ Unionville
A local game for me will be Central Bucks South at Council Rock South to open the season. It would seem both would be in a rebuilding, or reloading, mode. CB South lost fine QB Johns, et al, and CR South lost about 10 starters on both sides of the ball it would seem, and two straight years’ of great triple-option QBs in Haldis and Donnelly. Should be interesting.
LaSalle/North Penn, always big match-up. Can set tone for rest of season.
Watch Easton/Pennsbury. Everyone expects an easy Easton win, but I think they will be shocked.
St Joe’s at Florida, tough game for the prep.
Parkland/ Del Val, another tough game.
Lotsa markee games this weekend for so early in the season.
I will be covering the Southern Columbia vs. Pius X game.
What do you think of these matchups?
Whitehall vs. Spring-Ford
LaSalle College vs. North Penn
Scranton Prep vs. Wyoming Area
Parkland vs. Delaware Valley
Delone Catholic vs. Trinity
Lewisburg vs. Townanda
Southern Columbia vs. Pius X
Pennsbury vs. Easton Area
Wyomissing Area vs. Schuylkill Haven
Saint Joseph’s Prep vs. Cocoa (FL)
Malvern Prep vs. Roman Catholic